Quote from: Elwar on March 10, 2020, 04:26:31 PM

I've been to one of these casinos in Florida. I got on a ferry that took us 12 miles out to a casino boat. We sat out there gambling all day then came back on the ferry.

I have no idea how they pay taxes or if they do at all.

The thing US seasteaders do not understand is that by living in international waters they are subject to paying US income taxes as if they are in the US. People who live outside of the US get the Foreign Earned Income tax credit which makes it so that their first $100k of income is tax free if they live in another country.
But if you are in international waters you are not in a foreign country. So the default goes back to paying full US income taxes.

This has been demonstrated in court cases, one man on a contract in the Antarctic tried to claim the Foreign tax credit. He was turned down due to not being in a foreign country.

So the whole idea of seasteading being a tax haven is false. You must pay more taxes (as Americans).

Except for one major point. Income taxation in America is voluntary. The IRS even says it in their paperwork.

If taxation is voluntary, why do people lose in court? In the same way that they would lose if they fought anybody incorrectly in court. For example. If I said you owed me $100,000 and took you to court on it, if you didn't fight me, or if you fought in the wrong way, you might wind up owing me $100,000 by court judgment, even if you didn't owe me the money before.

The IRS has done it like this, only in a way that they trick you into losing. They built all kinds of stuff into law so that they confuse the heck out of everybody. People don't know the correct way to fight because of this. Yet even though there is all this IRS law, it has been shown by its own written paperwork to not really be law. So, where is the trick located that binds people into paying?

It starts out in agreements that people make with the IRS. The IRS Form W-4, for example, that a person signs with his employer, is an initial agreement that a person has with the IRS, through his employer. By answering the questions/points on the Form W-4, the person is stating - in a hidden way - that he is making an agreement with the IRS. If, instead, the person filled out Form W-4 with "n-a" on all the lines, wrote "EXEMPT" or "EXCLUDED" across the form, and signed it "non-assumpsit (no contract), signature," the employer is supposed to NOT withhold, and the IRS is not supposed to collect.

If the IRS demands a 1040, the same can be done directly to the IRS by filling out the 1040 in a similar way as the Form W-4... "n-a" on all the lines, "EXEMPT" or "EXCLUDED" across the form, and signed "non-assumpsit, signature."

Notice that most letters the IRS sends, are not signed. But if they are, it's a facsimile signature... not a live IRS person signature. This means that it is harassment. Write to the branch head, and warn him/her that you will sue them personally for sending you harassing letters. The letters will stop. But if they don't sue the IRS sucker personally, man-to-man... and get some money out of him.

In court, never be represented, and make it known that you are not representing yourself. You are standing present. Because you, a man or woman are present, your accuser has to be in form of man or woman, so that you can question them under oath on the stand. Standard USA law.

The IRS almost invariably indicts as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So, require that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (written on the indictment against you) get on the stand so that you can question him/her regarding the damage that you did to him/her. Since he won't step forward (because he is not a man or woman), take the oath, get on the stand, case dismissed. If somebody else comes along and says he is representing the IRS, you need your accuser to be there himself. Standard law.

Now that you have been damaged by being harassed all the way to court, demand payment from them to cover your expenses... at least in the amount that you were being sued for, plus court costs and other expenses.

Don't attempt this until you understand what you are doing, and have at least two helpers who understand it as well.

Not that if you want to be a US taxpayer, pay your taxes.

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