Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 16, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/15/nothing-to-fear-but-fear-itself/

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... Roosevelt used the fears of the American people to elevate the Federal government as the savior and ultimate allocator of dispensations to the masses. This is how politicians used fear in the 1930s to implement more control over our lives.

Good thus far...

Quote from: nullius on March 15, 2020, 05:53:59 PM

What is unacceptable is panic, bureaucratic do something! tyranny, and worst of all, hybris.

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I do not fear the virus.

I fear the government which claims jurisdiction over my secure undisclosed location. Its current behaviour is alarming.

I fear the ~~people~~ talking apes around me. They are panicking, behaving irrationally, and clamouring for an aggressive government response. Predictably, the government replies with a bureaucratic mess that spectacularly fails to prevent the spread of the virus, whilst instantly instantiating a de facto dictatorshipnot potential dictatorship, actual dictatorship, right now, today! Nobody notices.

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 16, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

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Ive followed this entire coronavirus outbreak with a skeptical eye since it first appeared on the radar in January. Knowing that Im lied to by virtually everyone has made it difficult to comprehend the truth about this ongoing crisis. We know China lied to the entire world about the outbreak in Wuhan. It wasnt until social media revealed the true extent of the virus and quarantine of a city larger than NYC, that the world began to understand this was serious.

The fact that a military bio-lab in Wuhan somehow contributed to the initial outbreak has been downplayed by the propaganda media. The arrest of a Harvard chemistry professor and two Chinese nationals for trying to smuggle biological vials to China in January is also highly suspicious. A Canadian government scientist at the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg made at least five trips to China in 2017-18, including one to train scientists and technicians at Chinas newly certified Level 4 lab, which does research with deadly pathogens.

All indications point to this virus being man made, for purposes of biological war. Whether it was released into the world by accident or on purpose is unknown.

Now, hold up a moment! Compare this:

Quote from: nullius on March 15, 2020, 05:53:59 PM

0. Governments seize upon an emergency to arrogate unto themselves emergency powers. Whether they create the emergency, or merely take opportunistic advantage of some existing situation producing panic which they can encourage and exploit. all that they need is an emergency.

The emergency may be a more or less real problem. For example, the Roosevelt gold seizure exploited panic over the Great Depression. No reasonable person denies that the Great Depression caused widespread worry and suffering. I must mention this explicitly, because ~~imbeciles~~ ~~the feeble-minded~~ ~~the subnormal~~ ~~Americans~~ ~~mental retards~~ persons with intellectual disabilities irrationally assume that tyrants can only exploit fake events.

Yes, fake is not the same as created by the government. Yes, also, I am reasonably sure that the Great Depression was caused by the Fed (whether from malice or stupidity), and subsequently exploited (from malice only). Nevertheless, the same principle applies: The fact that a crisis can be exploitedis being exploited for tyrannical purposes does not in itself support any inference whatsoever about its causes. Tyrants can act opportunistically!

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 16, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

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What is not taught in government schools or proclaimed by the propaganda spewing fake news media were the dictatorial type actions taken by FDR over the next month after his inspirational speech. He was the first Democrat president to not let a crisis go to waste. The day after his inauguration, Roosevelt assembled a special session of Congress to declare a four-day bank holiday, and on March 9 signed the Emergency Banking Act.

What the American people should have feared was the government taking control of every aspect of their lives and threatening them with imprisonment if their dictums were not followed. On March 6, taking advantage of a wartime statute that had not been repealed, he issued Presidential Proclamation 2039 that forbade the hoarding of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, under penalty of $10,000 and/or up to five to ten years imprisonment.

Yes, I have been hitting that point hard since I was a Newbie:

Quote from: nullius on December 09, 2017, 08:48:57 AM

This is fact, not fancy. Not some weird theory. This is history: It actually happened. And if it happened before, it could happen again.

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It happened: CRIMINAL PENALTIES... 10 years imprisonment... for keeping gold!

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 16, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

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One month later, Roosevelt implemented Executive Order 6102 forbidding the hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States. FDR, like every corrupt politician, overstepped his authority by invoking the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, to seize all the gold in the country. The fake reason for the order was that hard times had caused hoarding of gold, stalling economic growth and making the depression worse.

As usual, the Federal Reserve created the Great Depression through their recklessly easy monetary policy during the 1920s, creating a stock market bubble and its inevitable crash. The false rationale behind the order was to remove the restriction on the Federal Reserve which prevented it from increasing the money supply during the depression; the Federal Reserve Act (1913) required 40% gold backing of Federal Reserve Notes issued.

Excessive money printing by the Fed to benefit their Wall Street owners and the monied interests is a consistent theme since the Feds shameful conception in 1913. They catalyzed the Great Depression Fourth Turning in 1929 and seventy-nine years later created the current Greater Depression Fourth Turing in 2008. Americans should fear what they have done to our country.

Roosevelt used the fears of the American people to elevate the Federal government as the savior and ultimate allocator of dispensations to the masses. This is how politicians used fear in the 1930s to implement more control over our lives. They used the 2008 Wall Street created financial collapse to further confiscate the nations resources, while screwing over the little guy.

Hmmm...

Quote from: nullius on December 09, 2017, 08:48:57 AM

Think it cant happen? Wellhow many of you are American? Private individual ownership of gold coins and bars was illegal in the United States for four decades. Hoarding individual wealth in gold was banned from 1 May 1933 until 31 December 1974. Vast amounts of gold bullion were confiscated from people, who were forced to accept instead the Monopoly Money known as United States Dollars. Numerous individuals were criminally prosecuted for attempting to keep their golda crime according to Executive Orders 6102, 6111, 6260, and 6261, and the Gold Reserve Act passed by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs law criminalizing gold
30 January 1934

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 16, 2020, 09:14:49 PM

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Now, we are in the midst of another manufactured crisis

Protip: When you have a rock-solid point that is completely indisputable as to fact, dont bollox it up with stuff you cannot prove in black and white.

For example, everything that I said here is reasonably unimpeachableunless somebody wants to deny that lockdowns are occurring, or whatever?

Quote from: nullius on March 15, 2020, 05:53:59 PM

1. Under the banner of Emergency, governments inure panicked sheep to:

✔ Government control of food supplies
✔ Government control of both local and long-distance travel
✔ Arbitrary lockdowns
✔ Direct government control of each individuals body, under the rubric of e.g. healthcare
✔ Arbitrary, peremptory government orders of any kind whatsoever
Total government control of communications^*

(* In my nightmare, this has not yet started; thus, I would still be able to post this message. The worst part of my nightmare is when I discover that dissent is so marginal amidst the mass-panic, the government finds it unnecessary to control communications.)

All of these actions are praised by the sheep, due to mass panic. Dissidents will be immediately labelled conspiracy theorists and/or accused of wanting for people to die.

2. The governments actions do not actually stop the emergency. This is a feature, not a bug. Short-term emergency measures become long-term daily realities to which people have become accustomed: The instant new normality.

(For my nightmare, it would be quite convenient if, say, the emergency were a rapidly spreading infectious disease with high fear factor and low lethality. With a bit of luck, such an emergency may continue for long enough to make total, inescapable global tyranny an accomplished factor even indefinitely!)

To be clear, I concur with the same points about the government responses. I am urging more effective advocacy.