Quote from: franky1 on March 19, 2020, 03:55:18 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on March 18, 2020, 06:05:17 PM

unusually high mortality rates quite specific to the older crowd. The question comes up (or should) what is it that's different about older people?

common sense its not like corona picks a person based on age
common sense its that the older a person is the less healthy they are going to be naturally

for instance heart issues are not a 'norm' for a 18yo but is a known expected thing for those over 50
for instance diabetes issues are not a 'norm' for a 18yo but is a known expected thing for those over 50
for instance COPD issues are not a 'norm' for a 18yo but is a known expected thing for those over 50

even just ware and tear of 40years of working from 20-60 puts a strain on the body of 60+

i know you will say not every 50+ person is unfit. but in the same instance not everyone over 50 is dying. only 15% of over 80 are

corona will hit everyone
90% will just have the sniffles(wont get reported/tested)
over 9% maybe more severe(will get reported/tested)
under 1% will die/need intensive care and resuscitation

again its not that corona is specifically targetting certain people. everyone will get it
as for the pattern between having severe symptoms vs patients who had other vaccinations previous years
this again is not targetting of people who had a vaccine.. but vaccine given to vulnerable people as standard

so its the commonality of a vulnerable health underlying condition. not specifically a age target and not a vaccine target
again third time
old people are naturally and normally have more preexisting conditions do to normal and natural ware and tear

A plausible (if completely obvious) general idea for sure, but how does it match up with the actual observations of SARS-cov-II infections relative to other infections which debilitate via similar biological mechanisms? I mean, most of these pulmonary centric infections kill in a pretty similar way.

An outlier was the 1918 (non-)Spanish flu which was noted to impact the younger crowd in an atypical manner.

When Lord Kelvin said

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“When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science.”

I don't think that by 'express in numbers' he mean pull some number out of your ass and type them onto a keyboard. That is clearly what you did since there remains a great deal of error margin with the denominator in the mortality rate equation. Not to mention the strain tracking which is likely important given the differences noted geographical region.

Quote from: franky1 on March 19, 2020, 04:20:40 AM

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i hope you can start to want to do real research from the point of view of human health. and NOT due to some conspiracy theory you want to push

You might step back and ask yourself: "Gee, why am I having such visceral 'triggered' response to any idea which is outside of a particular yet poorly defined mainstream-approved norm???"

When I did this years ago I was able to expand the hypotheses which I was able to entertain greatly and as a consequence vastly improve my (already natively high) analytical abilities. That has payed dividends in a myriad of ways.

Now it must be said that I have never really been able to satisfactory answer the question as posed in spite of putting a lot of energy into it. I was able to develop a ton of hypotheses about it but nothing really rises to the fore. I strongly suspect it is a thorny multi-variate problem.