Quote from: nullius on Today at 04:29:07 PM

I disagree insofar as I don’t think that Turkey is anything even remotely approximating a free country; Europe is overall better in that regard. But Europe is not “free”, either—not even nearly; and in practice, America is overall worse. America is a dystopia of near-total mass thought control, which preaches about its domestic “freedoms” with the same hypocrisy as with which it preaches the “liberation” of foreign countries whose people did ask for the American world-police to bomb them into “freedom”. Frankly, I would prefer to deal with honest tyrants who wave their iron fists upfront, than to deal with the American government.

The reality: You are free to do what we tell you. You are free to think what we tell you. You are free to choose between Coke and Pepsi. YOU ARE FREE TO OBEY.

Unfortunately, world (maybe more in US, maybe more in other countries) comes more and more like Orwell's Oceania, described in his masterpiece 1984. I'll add three quotes from the book, very relevant in this case.

“It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself–anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called."

“The thing that he was about to do was to open a diary. This was not illegal (nothing was illegal, since there were no longer any laws), but if detected it was reasonably certain that it would be punished by death."

"There is no way in which the Party can be overthrown. The rule of the Party is for ever. Make that the starting-point of your thoughts."

Quote from: nullius on Today at 04:29:07 PM

I withheld it in the belief that even the slightest attempt to untangle this mess was not worth bumping one of the stupidest of stupid threads that this forum has seen in a long time. Well, that is always a mistake.

Loool, yes indeed. Very, very rarely my eyes saw anything like that. Unfortunately, mods also deleted a post of mine which describes very short all OP's ~~way of thinking~~ insanity. I'll try my luck once again:

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Quote from: DragonDance on April 10, 2020, 09:06:01 AM

When your "national hero" the impaler and torturer of some 20,000+ people including his own countrymen finally got the attention of the Turks and was easily ambushed and beheaded in a forest in his own country

So this is the ~~Turks~~ baboons logic: if you break into my house carying a weapon and I'm defending me and my property using a gun, I'm the barbar, the villain, the sadist, right?

That makes fully sense.

Quote from: nullius on Today at 04:29:07 PM

I may take a stab at some of the other mess here. Though I doubt it would make any difference.

Unfortunately, most likely, it won't.