Quote from: franky1 on April 16, 2020, 08:34:09 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on April 16, 2020, 07:30:20 AM

Choosing to stay home and being forced by the state to stay home are two very different things.

but missing the point of the reason for it

'i want to stay safe behind a closed door but i want government to tell businesses to open their doors'

it was advisory not marshal law. it is the idiots that dont listen to advice and independently choose that its in their best interest to safe safe.. so when they disregard advice it make things harder for themselves. by making government have to get more involved.

here is the critical detail.
people can actually work. people can start businesses. they just have to do it in a safe way for both their staff and their customers.

new businesses have popped up that offer food delivery, some businesses change the products they create.
i can only speak mainly from UK point of view but bars(pubs) might have closed their doors to serving pints of beer. but in many places their staff are still working by offering food and bottled/canned alcohol delivery.

the government hasnt forced everyone take a few months off. they advised if a business cant operate at safe social distancing then its best they change or take a break. (still a choice)

businesses can actually operate again if they can show they doing it sensibly where there is an actual need

for instance mercedes benz stayed running, but realised car manufacturing would not really be good because not many people will want to buy cars. so they diverted to making hospital ventilators

yes coffee shops might be closed. but they can always divert to delivery of certain items

i just took a little browse of many government/state websites and what im finding is alot of advice on how to protect workers while in work.. strangely nothing about 'enjoy a nice break from work'

its actually the businesses that went from 0 to 100 and laid people off before thinking about changing old habits.
the main advice from most is businesses that operate by having customers congregate in a way that cant be avoided by any 2m rule. should change or take a break

but here is one little funny part i have noticed
while barista's cant serve customers and cry how they cant work.. farmers are literally screaming for workers to help pick the harvests..

You are a real big fan of projection aren't you? Dictators always have a "reason". If they are fining and arresting people for going about their lives it is not an advisory then now is it? Too bad you don't lose your job and are forced to pick fruit for a living.