Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

assuming he is actually deceased

Do you believe everything you read online? It might be Roll Eyes

to you because you might know him better than others but it's also Roll Eyes

to me as well because the first I heard of this was a couple of weeks when he started asking for money. Usually when people come here begging with a sob story people rightly jump on them and question their authenticity.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

(is there anything online other than the obituary sites and funeral home?).

Such as? The only thing I can think of that would satisfy you would be to talk to a family member in person, and even then, how do you know they're not lying to you? I suppose you can ask the hospice for whatever record of his death is publicly available. Again, you'll have to go there in person in order to make sure you are not receiving forged evidence.

Such as, you know, actual proof. Death certificates and so on. They're usually public record. I don't know about you but somebody just saying online that someone is dead isn't going to be enough for me to say case closed. Talking to a family member wouldn't really mean anything either because like you said why would you trust them or be able to verify who they are.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

I'm not saying he faked his own death or anything but until I see something concrete I'll keep an open mind.

Sounds like one of those "I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens"-type deals.

No, I'm saying faking his own death isn't something I believe he did or is doing, but I'm also saying just because someone says they're dying or are dead doesn't make it so. This is all we seemingly had for paripan and then his coins go walk about when they're worth a shitload. I think it's entirely possible he isn't actually dead and many others are sceptical even though he told people he was dying so bruno's case isn't exactly ludicrous to question either.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

I don't really believe it was someone else posting from his account either but using pictures from December was a little suspect

Why? He went to the hospital 3 times between December and March and was admitted to the hospice in late March. Maybe he wasn't in a picture-taking mood after being given 2 months to live (which turned out to be closer to 2 weeks).

He was in the mood to ask for people's money by writing out a lengthy thread so taking some new pictures probably isn't hard. Those pictures could have easily been sent to someone else back in December as proof for something and then that person uses them at a later date to try get some money. There's a reason why timestamps are important. Maybe he used them then to solicit donations or to try sell his account to someone? I don't know. Just to clarify, I think it's far more likely that Bruno is actually deceased, but all I'm saying is nothing that has been posted here is 100% proof to me and we certainly don't know where that money is going at least. Gleb's accounts have been in the possession of others numerous times so it's not ridiculous for someone to question this when he uses month old pictures asking for money.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

I could never really figure him out.

I definitely got that from your interactions with him in the past.

Yeah, apparently when Gleb sold/tried to sell his accounts that's ok with most people here. Funny how they don't feel that way with everybody else. Somebody could have done real damage with his accounts given their prominence and rank so that's why I'm saying I could never work him out. Likes to bust scams but then also is willing to sell his account to the highest bidder that could easily facilitate them. Not cool.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM

Selling them for one final time would definitely be a way to get a little extra cash. I probably wouldn't even blame him for selling them given the circumstances.

That's very considerate of you.

If he's sold his accounts multiple times before and knows he's dying then why wouldn't he sell them or give them way? Especially when he's in need of some cash. I still don't think that's ok but I can see why someone would do that. That's all I'm saying.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

Look, I get the whole "don't trust - verify" thing that people here zealously cherish, but in your case all you can do is go by his last login date to see if anybody (or him if you disbelieve obituaries on a half dozen websites) has accessed his account.

Not logging into his account for a while isn't going to mean anything. What happens if someone does log into those accounts in the future? Proof he's alive? As for the obituaries, I've only seen a couple but they're on websites that anyone can create one with zero proof.

Quote from: nutildah on April 17, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

I interacted more with Bruno during the past couple years than anybody else on the forum (most likely), and definitely more in the last few months of his life, when it truly mattered.
I'm telling you he's dead, I've been in contact with his family, and now I'm done commenting on the matter. Feel free to speculate further if you must.

All I'm saying is I require more proof than he said she said. You could be in on any scheme or shenanigans he might have been trying for all I know. Again, it's obvious that it's more likely he is gone, but at the same time anyone looking at this objectively from the things that have been publicly posted should be able to say that it's not 100% confirmed.

Quote from: Timelord2o67 on April 18, 2020, 06:10:21 AM

Some of you need to take your posts back to Bruno's Plea thread as your posts are straying from the question of the poll. I assure you I am reading every post in both threads and am taking that into consideration.

Thanks again.

Shouldn't you be thinking about this logically rather than what people vote? I'm sure people will vote yes with the best of intentions hoping the money goes to helping him or his family out in some way but they probably don't know the whole facts. If the money is going to be wasted by doing so it seems kind of pointless. If you believe nutildah and he says he knows the situation better than anybody and is advising people not to send money to the address then surely it's not a great idea to do so.