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Just went to the bulk food store and bought about $1k worth of food (mainly meat) and vitamins.

They were out of freezers otherwise I would have bought one (and more meat).

Things like this are why I did bitcoin. Not to buy a lambo.

One downside to my current status that I have noted is the lack of freezer space. A good deep freezer doesn't use much power and should be able to run on the solar/battery arrays. I'll keep that in mind and get one later when things are more normal, live and learn.

Why are you people hoarding food?
At lest where I live there is no shortage of anything except hand sanitizer and masks, and that is getting back in stock slowly as well.
I go shopping every third day, because that's when its time to buy more milk, I usually shop right before closing to avoid crowds, but I have done some daytime shopping too and it wasn't so bad, people were distancing.

Here in Panama we are locked down very tight. It has progressively gotten more strict. At the moment, men can only go out on Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours each day. Women on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Saturday is full lockdown. It didn't start like this.

I live about an hour from the closest grocery store. The last time (a few weeks ago) I went into town the lines outside the main grocery stores were very long (with people all bunched up next to each other) so I went to the smaller shops that sell meat. The meat in Panama is not very good, very tough (I tried dry aging but that did not go well my first try). The beef was gone at that store, half of the food on the shelves was gone.

So I took the 2.5 hour drive to Panama City where they have one of those "Costco" types of stores while I have a special piece of paper that allows me to go into the city. I waited in line outside the store with all of the other men for about an hour (I barely made it into the store within my time window with the guy at the door telling me I have to be out in 20 minutes to be within my time slot).

Most of the food in that store likely comes from the US. Panama is not a farming country. I found out the reason it is not a farming country is due to the inability for farmers to be able to protect their farms from scavengers stealing their food (the locals are mostly thieves of opportunity).

I do not see this lockdown being lifted until at least June. I don't know how much more strict they will get. That may have been the last time I was able to go to the city to buy food until this is over. And at that point...will the supply lines still be there? I'm sure if food is scarce in the US they will not want to export.

Sure, I can survive...I live on the ocean and can fish (illegally but they aren't cracking down), I have fruit trees, we grow veggies, etc.

But we're still building our seastead factory in spite of only being allowed out of our homes for 4 hours a week.

We stay out of our homes so that you can have the option of a future away from tyranny.

That's irrational, arbitrary, counterproductive, and oppressive I would say. TPTB are seizing an opportunity to impose martial law type powers blindly.
It's not so bad here in Istanbul as it is in Panama. Stores of many kinds still open on weekdays and we can move around the city. Public transportation is running. No intercity travel. Weekends in Istanbul are effectively total lockdown. Nobody allowed to leave their houses except to walk to a nearby pharmacy or bakery if necessary. Nothing else open. Also, 65 and over can't go out at all, ever. That's real cruelty.
Following China's example, governments around the world get comfortable squeezing society like a toothpaste tube. Sheep don't make a peep.

It's surreal. Almost literally nothing has changed in Denmark. Public gatherings above ten are banned but that barely means anything in this culture, the streets were nice and empty for a short while and now they are full again. The only real change is that things like hair dressers are still closed but that's ending soon too.

Curfews just ensure that everyone will be out at the same time. It has to be done on purpose. Pretending to do something without actually fixing the problem while creating new ones.