Quote from: LaaMos Seeth on April 09, 2020, 12:19:00 PM

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 09, 2020, 07:54:16 AM

Quote from: LaaMos Seeth on April 08, 2020, 07:26:17 AM

This is not true. And you know it.
Many users have 2 nodes in 2 virtual machines on the same PC. And there are those who have 3 nodes.
Therefore, really unique people, well, maybe 600.
Not a great achievement for a coin which is 2 years old.

You are wrong. 95-98% of idena nodes are unique person. Those 2-5% did not yet realised that it is more profitable to have 1 node with 98% score than 2 nodes with 80% and no invitations (thanks to update with human status and 2 invitation per human and 6 flips per short session) - soon they will. People claim that they have 2 nodes only because they have friends/family member that validates second node. Just like my wife just become human during last validation. But it's still 1 person 1 vote. Just like during elections. You can write an authorization that someone else can represent you. Like i manage a node of my wife that she validates.

Such a serious statement requires evidence on your part.
How did you calculate these 98% unique nodes?
All users personally reported to you that the second node is for the wife?
I read in a Chinese unofficial chat, and there many people made two nodes exclusively for themselves, not for the wives of relatives.
In general, please provide evidence of 98% uniqueness of nodes.
At this stage, its just your words are not confirmed by anything.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 09, 2020, 07:54:16 AM

Quote from: LaaMos Seeth on April 07, 2020, 03:23:42 AM

3. Official coin Administrator (maybe one of the Dev team) urge to kill invitations from those people who make bad flips (bad in their opinion).
....
And nothing has changed. All of these points still indicate that the actions of developers (and 101% Admin) contradict decentralization.

In centralized network Admin will go and kill nodes by himself. He would not need to convince others. This is decentralized network. Dev's gives us tools and SUGGEST what to do with them. We ... unique nodes decide what to do with them. Majority of the nodes decides what's profitable or not and what's good or not for network.
They only gives us tools. We use them or not. 100% decentralized network.

No it's not 100% decentralized network until other points exist

Quote from: Tyttifructawy Anus on April 05, 2020, 02:54:12 AM

Why is this project not decentralized (as stated on the main site):

1. You cannot dispose of your property. You generate (mining) invitations, but you cannot sell them, you can only give them out for free. Because the developers intentionally do not disable the termination of newbies and candidates.
2. Candidates and newbies are always at risk of being "killed".
3. Official coin Administrator (maybe one of the Dev team) urge to kill invitations from those people who make bad flips (bad in their opinion).
Here are some screenshots.
Admin calls for killing those who make bad flips:
https://i.imgur.com/ltADmRh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UBBXxUX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Aiw9SV1.jpg
4. Developers urge to send reports on bad flips - flips with porn, with politics and so on. But what about the freedom of speech mentioned on the main site?
5. Incredibly huge premine.
As a result, for each of these points, you depend on the third party. Is this decentralization? No. This is totalitarian control.

-All network users should have equal rights. There should not be anyone who can be "killed".
-There should be no censorship.
-You should have the full rights to dispose of your invitations, because this is your property. But the developers specifically limit you in your rights (to sell invitations), because they do not disable the "killing" of newcomers.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 09, 2020, 07:54:16 AM

Quote from: LaaMos Seeth on April 07, 2020, 03:23:42 AM

This huge amount of traffic from this coin...
10-15 gigabytes per day easily!
If you have a weak router - you need vps.
If you do not have unlimited traffic - you need vps.
If you have a weak provider - you need vps.

Still the lowest entry point for mining crypto world has even seen.

Very, very controversial statement.
A powerful high-quality router is expensive everywhere.
Unlimited Internet in some countries is very expensive or it doesn't exist at all.

In other coins, all you need to do is set up the CPU / GPU / ASIC, connect to pool and you're done.
And here in Idena again the third party - VPS.
Third party provider, which you need to pay, monthly / annually.
You need to register there, provide your data.
Do not be a noob to configure a Linux server via SSH in a terminal without a graphical interface.
Having a third party always increases the risk of being hacked.

So many extra nuances ...

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 09, 2020, 07:54:16 AM

Quote from: LaaMos Seeth on April 07, 2020, 03:23:42 AM

But numbering can be smart.
You can number flips with emoticons, figures, lines, dots, the number of angles of a star, and anything else. Turn on fantasy.
But not just the numbers printed on the picture, which can be recognized by bots.

But it still makes no sense.
AI is the future. AI-resistant - not.

Numbered flips, no matter if "figures, lines, dots" is dozens times easier for AI to solve. If you do a network that is easy for AI to cheat than you are simply doing POW. It's POP.

As i said before - AI-resistant coin in our world where all areas of life are automated more and more every day is dumb idea.
But if you so want to do it, i suggested you replace the flips

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 07, 2020, 01:44:11 PM

Quote from: Railai on April 09, 2020, 12:42:08 AM

This might work out. Different cultures takes it to different understanding and different creation, there are so many differences between how we see stuffs arround us.

And as you said earlier, no censorship, stop sending the idea to any newbie coming that he needs to take invite only from dev bc his identity will be killed. Or how they did after this epoch, cutted 200 verified members out of their rights to invite. But ofc older shillers here, they won't care. They care only to shill everything the dev is saying

This makes completely no sense. How you imagine Proof of Person blockchain without test who is human who is bot? Bitcoin has POW algorithm to prevent from cheating the network, NEO has POS, idena has POP that is ... as Vitalik said... "proof-of-unique-human is going to be a very valuable primitive for applications in the years to come." and we are here developing it and being first adopters of something massive. Bunch of trolling accounts will not change it.

All of your (troll spam farm) suggestions would kill network in a matter of 1 validation. It's like - lets turn off mining difficulty for bitcoin - everyone should have right to mine it with old PC.

And Railai replied to my post where I suggested disabling these pictures and replacing them with Slide Captcha with puzzle.
https://www.geetest.com/en
If Binance use it to protect against bots, then why not take an example from them?

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on April 07, 2020, 01:44:11 PM

This makes completely no sense. How you imagine Proof of Person blockchain without test who is human who is bot?

Maybe you missed this my message
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194871.msg54179460#msg54179460
Why is this check that you are not a bot worse than flips?
Do you think fools work in Binance?

Thank you, LaaMos!
that's what Im talking about, thanks for the detailed explanation

And don't waste your time on tytanowy janusz...he's from poland...you know what it means...

And don't forget to number the flips!
Number in any way:
1,2,3,4
or
. .. ... ....
or
l ll lll lV
or
A B C D

Don't worry about the developers.
Now we have to solve 6 flips, not 5. And it will take more time!
Let's help each other, do not report such flips.
We are all here to mine more coins and make more money.