Quote from: amishmanish on Today at 10:55:58 AM

Quote from: koincik on Today at 10:24:15 AM

SUMMARY: He is mentioning your interest on our local boards. And I think none of us can't understand why are you looking upon us? A member of forum is translating our all important posts here.

And my friend, please can you explain for us why are you really here? We didn't mention or tagged here about you ever.

Thanks Koincik. I would love to. I have noticed that there have been posts from Visipilio, wolwoo etc that seem to portray two things:
1. Some anti-turkish sentiment in global
2. DT-1 conspiracy involving Lauda etc.

I have no affiliations to any of them. I have explained in my earlier post that why i trust Lauda and why i think they are doing a good job at controlling scams on the forum. In my opinion, every single account on the forum should be an independent,actual thinking member who is interested in bitcoin and should contribute towards bitcoin ecosystem in their own small ways. When people see the forum only as a point of earning money, that defeats the purpose. People make alt-accounts or bring in their friends for bounties and exchange merit so that they can continue farming. When any evidence of such collusion comes to light, people justify it by saying that "we are only doing it to earn honestly". When campaigns like "Yobit" pop up, people post like mad making 20 posts a day to earn money and then go completely silent. I see that as detrimental to the forum as well as to the bitcoin ecosystem in general. People like Lauda actually put the effort to identify such scamming/ spammy accounts. Hence, they have my unstinted support. I am not some highly placed member. I am just some guy who joined the forum in 2017 and have been just trying to actually get involved in BTC in whatever way i can. I DO NOT support Lauda using terms like "Turkish Monkey". If they were a personal friend, i would personally castigate them for it., Yet, freedom of speech and this being internet means I don't gain anything by doing that.

I followed visipilio and wolwoo's post and got to know about the drama that happened with Kalemder selection into Chipmixer. On the face of it, mutual inclusions with TECHSHARE were questioned there and no decent explanation ever came forth at that time. Now, the situation has become so complex that it is hard to know who to trust.Similarly, Visipilio got dropped from DT-1 after his very public statements about him not being responsible if people click on scams due to him. His image got spoiled due to some of these remarks and people in DT-1 acquired a bias against him. People do not want someone who will take such things lightly to be on DT-1.

That is when, Visipilio has started opening threads about DT-1 conspiracy, need for turkish users to unite and now he has gone a step ahead and is playing into the hands of the same trolls who want to damage BTC by saying things like "Blockstream conspiracy" etc etc. This is too much. I think he is misguiding Turkish users for his own rating issues. When in reality, he should be taking it up only with the people those ratings come from.

I have no interest except a certain feeling that the damage to Satoshi's forum or the damage to BTC is a loss for each and every on of us. We all as individuals have to help and grow the BTC ecosystem. We do it through individual contributions and initiatives, however small they maybe. It may be that i am misunderstanding Visipilio. Maybe some of you know him personally and have traded worth thousands with him and want to trust him. That is completely your own decision. I am not here to persuade anyone to trust lauda, wolwoo, visipilio or anyone. To me, you are all fellow human beings and i am only judging by what i see. I try not to be biased but then we may disagree on what constitutes a meritocracy.

I have to translate posts to answer some of you. I have some free time and I think Visipilio, who is very eloquent is not being fair by trying to propagate such misinformation about DT-cliques or Blockstream conspiracies. This is a disservice and a net negative to the forum. Thus, I just came here. I do have things to do and will stop when I don't have enough time or motivation. Ultimately, its for our Turkish brothers to decide.

I'm sorry, but it's hard to be convinced of what you say.

In any case, it is unacceptable to use "ugly" attributes in the style you mentioned above in Lauda or someone else. It is very valuable to have freedom of expression in the forum. But it is not nice to say this to anyone, especially as a matter of race! Also, there can be absolutely no freedom of expression on such a subject! It shouldn't be! Education is a simple and basic thing taught in the first years of our life. Freedom refers to the space to interfere with someone else's personal space! In other words, Lauda violates freedom of expression with that discourse about Turks (I think it contains racism)! And @theymos or any other manager should do something about it! It is unacceptable for everyone to attack each other in a personal or racist way in the forum. Moreover, this reduces the quality of the forum much more than anything else.

It is not forbidden in many of the things you mentioned above and say that Lauda is protecting the forum! But in this process, he sees selfishly the right to intervene in the expression and action of everyone. It has left me negative feedback, meaninglessly only because I support @Vispilio! In this case, you support @Lauda here against us. Does this require me to give you negative feedback? Because I think I can open a flag that talks about the most racist and aggressive person in the forum, a selfish person who doesn't help anyone, and a gang of trust in him. Do you think this would be the right thing to do?

You mentioned multi accounts in your post. I agree with the freedom of expression in the forum. But likewise, having multiple accounts in the forum is not subject to any restrictions! In this case, the "cheap" heroism of Lauda does not help anyone! Merit abuse incident is completely against everyone and if there is 100% proof, it is the responsibility of the forum administration to take the necessary measures in this regard! No one else.

Nobody, including me, understands that you are defending Lauda as a person who has been excluded and declared as an undesirable person by most of the forum. Some of the above discussions already include this. I think you owe us a full explanation about it. Because it is somewhat suspicious that you are coming out of thousands of people in the forum.

I'm asking with a completely friendly approach. Because none of the above explanations satisfy me. Because I did not go as far as to speak in a language I do not know to defend any person before. I have a hard time understanding someone who does this. Please explain to us. Why are you here and why do you really need to defend that unnecessary person?