Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 10:23:20 AM

someone with no studies doesn't have the right to complain against the measures. ~~Well, isn't Gates a college dropout now dictating our lives?~~

I'm not convinced that Bill Gates is a good representation of an average college drop-out.

Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 12:02:55 PM

I bought a box of masks from the pharmacy and guess what is written on the side of it: "these masks do not provide protection against COVID-19 (Coronavirus)"

They are covering themselves legally. Think about all the products that say 'may contain nuts' - even though there is effectively zero chance of them containing nuts. It costs nothing to put a line of text on some packaging, it could cost millions to defend a lawsuit from someone with a nut allergy... or who contracts CV19.

Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 12:02:55 PM

Fauci says masks may actually do more harm than good

If someone with CV19 is standing facing you and coughs, would you prefer they are wearing a mask?

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 10:39:47 AM

a shop owner has to keep himself and his business and other customers safe. and having a temperature check is not much of a impact to a persons day.
id actually be happy if a shop owner kicks out someone thats overtly sweating and coughing over the fruit

I'm happy with temperature checks, too. Seems sensible and prudent.

Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 12:02:55 PM

Do you get the fact that we're being considered infected by having normal temperature? NORMAL temperature?

Companies are trying to keep up with government advice/orders. If they are told anything over x degrees is potential infection, then they are obligated to treat it as such. Better to have a standardised approach rather than different companies doing different things.

Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 12:02:55 PM

Do you get that we're acting as if humanity has discovered the first virus ever?

The difference with this is that it is a novel virus, there is no pre-existing immunity. That's why it has become a pandemic, whereas seasonal flu does not.

Quote from: 20kevin20 on Today at 12:02:55 PM

So I guess whenever you catch a cold you're overly sweating and coughing on all fruits and food excessively. Right? This sounds exactly like the mainstream media narrative - they showed a few days ago a video of two men sneezing without covering their mouths and they were sneezing in such an exaggerated way spit was hanging off their chin. If that's how people sneeze, I may be the anormality maybe - who knows..

There's a good demonstration here of how a virus can spread in a public setting. I agree with you that a video of someone coughing in a way that doesn't represent normal behaviour may be counterproductive to the acceptance of what is a genuine problem.

Sensible restrictions are an important part of keeping the R value below 1. Now there may be reasonable personal liberty concerns over things such as abuse of track-and-trace technology to monitor citizens after the pandemic is over, but temperature checks and masks seem perfectly acceptable. However, sending people out into society with no clear guidance, or with guidance that can't reasonably be implemented is not.