Quote from: ifritsultan on March 02, 2014, 09:23:29 AM

Quote from: bitserve on March 01, 2014, 02:50:50 PM

In any case, we will be paying very close attention on any move of those coins in the future. And also there is an ongoing effort to compile as much data from different sources to get a better understanding of the whereabouts of these coins.

Who is "we"? Are you some part of a legal constitution, or are you meaning the customers/crowd/observers?
And have you already been aware of this wallet, which I mentioned in my first post?

English is a foreign language to me. When I said "we" I meant the customers/crowd/observers/legitimate parties... but I am not part (in this matter) of a "legal constitution" at this time.

Yes, I have been aware of that "wallet", and have already expressed my opinion about it.

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Quote from: bitserve on March 01, 2014, 02:50:50 PM

4) A lot of maybes are possible at this time. It's Karpeles which at this time should explain whose BTC's are those and why did he used them to "back up" his claims of solvency at that time. Whatever the explanation, he is or was lying. Pick your choice.

I do not understand, why there is still no clarification about the situation. Do you think, that it has low priority for the Japanese Bank surveillance? Will it therefore maybe never uncovered, what really happened? This is a very awkward situation and makes people kind of more and more agressive....
But maybe it will just need some time, until we will get all these informations.

I meant that no claims/explanations given until now are backed up by ANY evidence that could sustain them. In fact I mean, that this is unaceptable and they will be required to do so. It's a must as soon as the first criminal charges are pressed (yes, I assume there will be criminal investigation unless Japan laws are much more fucked than I could even imagine).

Quote from: Loozik on March 01, 2014, 03:51:23 PM

This fact only proves Mark controlled the address from which 424242.42424242 were sent. This fact does not prove Mark controlled the address to which 424242.42424242 coins were sent.

Of course! As I have also stressed, those coins could have been bought by some person at a later time.
But still: MtGOX had all these coins at that moment, which means, that the transaction-"bug" had not been used until that point. Additionally, one can clearly resolve all wallets, which have been used in the chain of transaction. And since it was a huge amount of bitcoins, there should be some cold storage in between this chain... So maybe we can already identify by our own, whether there are still coins left, or whether they have all been stolen.

I don't think those coins were bought at a "later time". Maybe that was the "sale" transaction itself, but I don't think anyone would buy them some time later and NOT move them to an address which private key is only known to them. That wouldn't make any sense.

In fact, I would bet those coins never changed hands.