Quote from: merv77 on March 01, 2014, 04:14:37 PM

Quote from: Biomech on March 01, 2014, 10:04:04 AM

Quote from: merv77 on March 01, 2014, 09:54:15 AM

Quote from: Searing on March 01, 2014, 09:27:05 AM

KnC needs to put up a sign... BUY at your OWN RISK! As refunds may not be turned in the same currency your product was purchased in.

on that note is it true that the 3rd batch of knc miners (the ones they are selling now) don't have a refund?

somehow i can't seem to get an answer to this (or it is obviouse someplace and i read over it)

thanks
Searing

If every thing goes to plan then I can see them saying no to refunds, but if miners change from physical to virtual or there is a delay in production then they cannot/should not refuse a refund.

I really couldn't care if they say 'no refunds' in the terms, if they can't produce in a timely manner then they have to refund if they like it or not.

I might be delusional but this is how I see it.

It's a principle at least as old as Rome in the common law: A unilateral change to a contract is not valid. Unless you're a government, then such things as morality and ethics have no meaning anyway.

Don't sign nothin' without a lawyer vetting it. YOUR lawyer, not KNC's.

There is nothing on KNC that says that they 'don't refund', or have I missed something

they did have a point in details of first batch that did say they do give refunds,
but removing/deleting this point on other batches doesn't mean that your not entitled to a refund either. no?

edit. I never signed or agreed to any ToC's either

I was basically agreeing with you.

They had originally stated that you could get a refund up to the time of shipping. I definitely saw this on their website with the last generation of devices. Can't recall on Neptune, but I think it was there too. Several members have stated (I don't speak from personal knowledge here) that they have retroactively altered their terms after a purchase has been made. This is not legal under any legal doctrine that I am aware of. I'm not a lawyer, but I am married to one. She agrees with me on that point. You can't alter a contract without the EXPLICIT consent of the other party. Any such alterations will not hold in a lawful court.