Quote from: MrZipster on June 03, 2020, 09:24:53 PM

Yep, but note I asked if hash rate stayed the same..

So I suppose I'm asking, why leave in the first place..

If your 2% shrinks to 1%, the leaving 1% must've thought their bread buttered better elsewhere..

But if it's all luck, and your 1 larger payment at BM every 30 days is about on par with 30 way smaller payments elsewhere every day, then why leave?

Just psychological for one or two at first, but that's enough to start the snowball rolling?

Or, were they definitely better off elsewhere?

When YOU moved, if ONLY you had moved, would you have been better off longer term?

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 03, 2020, 05:04:10 PM

Quote from: MrZipster on June 01, 2020, 10:41:53 PM

So out of interest, why have many folks moved on? Assuming hashrate about the same, all pools must pay out about the same, give or take?

pool shrinks a bit say from 2% to 1%
this is about 6 blocks every 2 days down to 3 blocks every 2 days.
this happened a while back.
then a cold streak. I left when this pool had back to back .99 cdf so you hit 2 blocks in 11 days vs less then 2 days.
during the cold streak when I left 7 of 10 blocks were .90 cdf or higher.
crazy bad variance.
A lot of us left at that time
pools share got lower then 1%
lower than 0.5%
so on and so forth.

We did back to back .99 cdf and we did 6 or 7 blocks of 10 over .92 cdf

the math of back to .99 cdf is 10000 to 1 shot.

then add in 5 of 8 over .92 cdf

odds are really high for that to have happened.

it is more likely the pool was under attack.

point shit miners that can't hit a block at nicehash to hide them then rent from nicehash and point the miners to bitminter. your cost is around 6%.

ie every 100 btc you get back 94 btc.

back in the day the math showed this was happening often. to a lot of smaller pools.

in that 10 block stretch where bitminter had 7 of 10 over .92 cdf with a back to back .99 cdf

it became obvious to me that any smaller pool could be attacked this way.

I mostly moved to viabtc and nicehash as you get .96 percent luck or better every day.

about .52 cdf for certain.

Small pools are subject to these attacks unless they have a lot of certain hash from a big miner.

kano.is has made over 2500 blocks first 1500 blocks they were .48 cdf really good number.

last 1000 blocks .53 cdf

long bad luck streaks kill off pools.

You have a ton of other risks involved.

I am the main miner at mmpool.org

we have not hit in 2 years. plus I am due 1.1 btc if we hit today.

So every day I am at constant risk of the pool shutting down.

I can't do this

at kano.is
ckpool.org
bitminer.com
mmpool.org

I have to point a lot of my hash at a certain payoff pool.