Quote from: casascius on February 25, 2011, 12:53:29 AM

MtGox said:

Quote from: mtgox on February 23, 2011, 05:04:22 PM

There is pretty strong evidence that this guy was involved in some theft of BTC. I'm trying to talk to him to make absolutely certain.

What more of an explanation does MtGox owe us? We aren't the legal system he's subject to. If because of this we somehow think MtGox will rip us off too, then we may exercise our right to withdraw our balances and discontinue using his services. I haven't seen Baron make even a halfway credible or coherent argument as to how these accusations don't have any merit

If my MtGox money disappeared, I would have no problem coherently explaining how I got it there, in two sentences or less, to the satisfaction of an attorney, a judge, or a jury. The whole idea that $45k can't buy a lawyer is nonsense. I have hired lawyers for plenty of things and doubt I've ever spent anywhere close $45k in my entire life on lawyers. A small legal fee just to come up with a coherent letter to Jed, cc: in plain view on the forum, explaining in plain English why the funds should be returned would be priceless... if in fact they should be returned to him. Here in America that would cost no more than a couple hundred bucks to have prepared by a law office. If that's too much to ask from Baron, well, to hell with him.

If Baron needs to lead us on a wild goose chase and make all this crap about "uh, what's a block chain"... cheers to Jed for doing what he did. If I were Jed, I would stash that money somewhere safe and keep my mouth shut, until someone stepped forward with a credible claim to it. It sounds like that's exactly what he is doing.

casascius, you still miss the main point. For what concerns any country's justice the value or worth of the stolen "thing" is zero.
Go on a claim that one stole you 45K LRUSD, 9K BTC or go saying that your neighbor assaulted your Farmville has the same legal value: NONE.
At best qualifies for data theft, but you don't get your "money" back or any compensation... to not even mention you'll probably be accused also of tax evasion, subversive economics, parallel market...