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Taking a sort of ad hominem stance by calling people who validate the protocol and transactions on the bitcoin network "irresponsible neckbeard hobbyists unable to make the proper life choices to enable them to leave mommy's basement" is not helpful or realistic IMHO.

Nope its called a strawman (wrapped in a red herring) and is a tactic Jbear falls back on when he is losing an argument. Logic fallacies are the shield liars, thiefs and schemers hide behind rather than admit their true goals.

We all know those "neckbeards" created bitcoin to protect against the centralist bankers that BSV is bootlicking.

It also hurts my soul that JB is parroting the talking points of the BSV drones. I mean, it's one thing if the argument is valid. But this is just as bad as the "thousand socks of nullc" talking point (quite the neckbeard by the way...).

And that's just it. No one is making a coherent argument for that fork. They bring up "protocol set in stone" as they change it. They fall back on "Law(l) and courts". Often you get to hear the "So many people are not smart enough to get it" or the "DYOR" argument. The the abominable "CSW is SN" garbage.

Another one of my favs is Calvin running around accusing people LEFT AND RIGHT of being paid trolls. I think Kevin Pham was OBVIOUS in that regard, and I have my suspicions that possibly Daniel Krawictz also was in that category. I have NO DOUBT that various twitter "influencers" received compensation for something like that. And his proclaimations of paid trolls sort of ignores the FACT that Bitcoin niether NEEDS or even cares about paid trolls.

What bitcoin HAS done is chew up and spit out just about everyone who has ever either purposefully (Pirate@40, so many others) or accidentally (Carpeles) attacked it.

Think of it from Faketoshi's perspective and it all makes perfect sense. How would you go about getting access to bitcoins without private keys? Your only real option is to start a legal battle, get some judge's order to "assign" them to you, and in parallel try to centralize the miners so that you could try to enforce that order with minimal costs, the less miners/validating nodes there are the easier it would be to force them to comply thus you're more likely to succeed. Label everyone that doesn't agree a criminal

And if you really want to go down that line of thought look for whatever is behind CSW pushing that goal and what can be accomplished once a precedent of not immutable is set. Wink

This is why it is our obligation to protect decentralization and fight centralizing forces before they take root.

Sorry, I just had to enlarge your last sentence...