Quote from: BADecker on August 06, 2020, 11:48:54 PM

Quote from: QuadeBarrier on August 06, 2020, 11:24:31 PM

I think the governors who decided to put coronations patients into nursing homes should be investigated. I feel it was done maliciously in order to keep the death count higher. Perhaps to get more bailout money from the Federal Government.

Right. They could have found empty buildings for them, or even had the State reserves put up tents until suitable buildings could be found or built.

Cool

this is the only time you actually found something that is a real problem
yes discharging people from hospitals before fully recovered. was done as a quick measure to free-up the bed so that new patients needing oxygen and treatment can get it

yes maybe by discharging them it could temporarily look good on reports that the discharge vs death in hospital due to covid looks more better. but by may when they done better analysis and started to include death in retirement homes. it obviously didnt help the reporting.

so i know you want to play games of saying covid is fake because the reporting wasnt accurate in feb-march-april. but your just digging yourself a hole going down the 'covid is fake' script.

however once you get out out of the hole you dug for yourself and realise covid is real and start looking at where the government actually failed its citizens. then you might have a rational thought and something worthy of talking about

heres a few hints at government failing citizens you should care about
1. china shut down its flights in january but the US government done its own repatriation flights to bring people from china and europe into US(trump brought in alot of cases to the us, under his order)

2. during january/february. US had alot of time to prepare and organise getting supplies. but they didnt react until march-april

3. instead of saying 'we should do something' they instead were just saying 'they caused it' thus getting nothing done early on, shifting blame while sitting on their hands

4. trump does what badecker does. says things he doesnt know/believe and then says its not his words he is just repeating messages of other people. when saying something publicly take responsibity for what you say even if its not your own original thought

5. governments are quick to hand out tax bis with 14-28 day deadines.. but when they order lockdowns offering compensation schemes to affected citizens in march but dont pay out the compensations until may-june. thats not helpful

6. not preparing hospitals/retirement homes in january/february.
sending people home from hospital in march while still not fully recovered. and not sorting it out until april-may once the first peak was over

7. even now they have not started preparing for a second wave. though things are better than pre-first wave. there are still alot of issues not being addressed for the second wave.

8. contact tracers. in june it was estimated to need over 180k contact tracers. but only had 28k
to avoid a massive second wave and only have a minor second third forth wave. more contact tracers are needed.

9. proper first day and everyday when needed support physically and financially for those being isolated due to being sick or informed to isolate due to contact tracers.
by doing all the shopping. getting prescriptions and just checking on peoples health and wellbeing. this can reduce the burden on people having to isolate and actually help them avoid going to the shops when sick, thus avoiding the spread.
financial support so they can do home deliveries instead of local store purchasing helps also
yes you can buy a $2 coffee at a walk-in cafe.. but no way can you get the same coffee delivered for that price

sweden done this and china and other countries. heck the UK have social groups on facebook of just kind hearted people wanting to help out people in their town. heck even antivaxxer jetcash is helping out someone he knows so that she dont have to go out herself.
without contact tracers and people to help those isolating. those that do isolate would end up breaking isolation thus causing more spread at times of peaks when its not needed or wanted to spread that much.

10. better funded and equipped hospitals to actually treat and look after patients for the entirety of their illness. not send them home hours after they got over the worse part