Quote from: iv4n on Today at 06:37:49 AM

Quote from: figmentofmyass on September 02, 2020, 11:36:58 PM

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Thank you for explaining what is semi-bluff, but I think you miss the point here! You didn't have anything after flop and turn, you had outs that's true, but on your first 200 chips bet on flop would you pay all in to see that flush?!

on the flop, i was the favorite to win. i may not have had a made hand, but it's a little odd to say i didn't have anything when i was the most likely to win at showdown.

would i pay if you check-raised all-in? it depends on the situation---pot odds, whether i feel pot committed, whether i feel like gambling when i'm a 60/40 favorite etc. there are many situations where it would be acceptable to call, especially if i've made significant bets already.

Quote from: iv4n on Today at 06:37:49 AM

Would you chase your outs in tournament without re-buys in the middle of the game?

i was not chasing draws. that usually implies passively calling down with bad odds. i rarely do that outside of multi-way pots that pay me off huge if i hit.

i was the preflop aggressor betting in position to a passive checker---big difference IMO.

on that AQ vs 77 hand, i'm sure if you hit one of your 6 non-diamond outs to a straight on the river, you wouldn't be complaining. i'm sure that open-ended straight draw factored into your decision to call the turn, right? and so you must understand the equity of draws even if it feels shitty when your opponents hit them. that's just poker.

Quote from: iv4n on Today at 06:37:49 AM

Now it's late to talk about what we would do, but if I reraised you on flop and make a big raise on turn would you pay that river?

again, it depends on the pot odds, but quite possibly. i would maybe just 4-bet shove all-in on the flop, especially in a MTT where i'm looking to build a stack as early as possible or get knocked out.

if you check-raised me on the flop and again on the turn, then yes i would call. without knowing the exact stacks/pot, i assume i'd be pot committed by that point.

Quote from: iv4n on Today at 06:37:49 AM

And don't get me wrong, what bothers me how similar both hands are and how you got flush on the river in both hands!

the chances to make a flush by the river when on a flopped flush draw = 35%. (and that's not taking into consideration straight draws or draws to a higher pair)

it's a very frequent occurrence, so it should be no surprise that it happened twice. this is why flush draw + open-ended straight draws are extremely valuable semi-bluffing hands because you will improve to a straight or flush by the river the majority of the time. by default, that makes it stronger than any pocket pair on an unpaired flop board.

what you're also not considering is all the times i did not hit my outs by the river, including those times where we did not show down and you did not see my hand. you're thinking "this guy is so lucky every time" (who do you think i am, @Hhampuz? Tongue

) because you have selective memory for these 2 hands. in truth i am running quite bad in this series.....