Quote from: usagi on March 03, 2014, 01:57:13 PM

Hello, I am here today to offer Eternal Bitcoin Bonds, for sale today!

All bonds are essentially loans, of course, which require collateral. My collateral is both personally owned and highly liquid, in the form of blue-chip stocks.
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This belongs in the long term lending forum, from which it was moved.

First, these "bonds" are not tradeable; they can't even be securitized by a third party because I can recall them at will. Second, If there was no collateral and people were buying shares of the profits of the investments, for example, then it would be a security.

Please move it back -- if this is not done I will have to re-post the offer in lending.

Quote from: twentyseventy on March 04, 2014, 02:08:40 PM

Also, since you're here, what happened to your plans to buy DMS 'debt' for 90%? And why are you still advertising the mega-scam that is MCXnow in your signature?

I haven't gotten around to listing on havelock yet. I'll send them an e-mail later today I guess.

#2. mcxNOW isn't a scam -- maybe realsolid scammed someone before, I have no idea, I certainly haven't seen any proof. As for mcxNOW, I have made a lot of money trading there. If you think it's a scam you should post your evidence to me in PM or on the scam accusation forum.

Quote from: OgNasty on March 04, 2014, 06:26:59 PM

This investment isn't low risk at all... You're promising returns that you will be unable to give in the long term, as I don't believe you have the capacity or the ability to grow an operation capable of sustaining 5% returns in BTC if the BTC price continues to rise.

You are stating your belief as a categorical fact.

Quote from: OgNasty on March 04, 2014, 06:26:59 PM

So either this will be a bad investment because....

Correction -- "I believe this will be a bad investment because..."

Quote from: OgNasty on March 04, 2014, 06:26:59 PM

My apologies if I've missed some point where you made right for the past failures.

Accepted ;-)

Quote from: thy on March 04, 2014, 10:47:49 PM

Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier that you just go to your local bank and there took out a loan with your house(s) as Collateral, it shouldn't be any problem to get up to 90-95% of the value(450 000+ usd instead of just 50 000 usd per 500 000$ value on the house) of the house on a loan at 1% yearly interest then and you wouldn't have any extra risk introduced by market fluctuations on USD/BTC price changes. ?

I'm a foreigner so I can't get a mortgage. That being said I don't need a mortgage. I'll be using the actual money for investing in crypto and merely using the collateral as "pure collateral". If I had a mortgage on a property, for example, I couldn't use that property as collateral. Again, this is not a security, it's a loan.