Quote from: nullius on Today at 03:15:17 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on October 05, 2020, 11:13:17 PM

Quote from: Paashaas on October 05, 2020, 09:53:16 PM

John McAfee arrested in Spain on tax charges in the U.S. Tongue

... hookers and blow and tax evasion, bitcoin rockstar Grin

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/john-mcafee-arrested-spain-and-charged-tax-evasion-and-promoting-initial-coin-offerings

Damn... Something about that photo makes me feel that I need a bath... First LFC, then this thing in juxtaposition... oh, the ugly mental images... Thanks; now, I need to squirt bleach into my eyes to stop the pain.

I think that I will start calling McAfee the Shitcoin Bill Clinton. He reminds me of Clinton, for some strange reason. But if possible, even more ~~pathetic~~ emetic.

Wrong and wronger don’t make right. Ugly mess from start to finish... Just lock that degenerate up alone in a room with a few kilos of the finest cocaine, and nothing else to do. It will be a self-solving problem.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:02:34 AM

Quote from: nullius on October 05, 2020, 10:06:43 PM

Why yes, let’s create a highly regulated derivatives market (replete with regulatory capture by the biggest and worst criminals), in which highly profitable (and oftentimes massive-clusterfuck-crash grade risky) financial products can be offered by those who (have teams of lawyers to pretend to) obey the (loophole-ridden exact letter of the) regulations. Let’s create a regulated “digital assets industry” (in which the sharks with big money and big lawyers can just eat everybody else alive). While we’re at it—let’s recreate the fractional reserve central banking system! You know, as long as this MAX_MONEY thing is in place, Bitcoin will always be subject to more or less price volatility. A beneficent central bank is like the governor on the economic engine—or like speed limits...

So, why do we have Bitcoin?

How are you going to stop those kinds of BIGGER players from coming into the space?

I don't see how we can necessarily have our cake and eat it too... One of the network effects in bitcoin is the increased financialization of the asset, and sure there might be attempts to denigrate bitcoin or to use bitcoin in the same kinds of ways that they have fucked up other asset classes, but you and I both recognize a distinguishing feature of bitcoin that changes the dynamics, and that is to be able to immediately claim possession of it. [...]

I am saying that they can’t have their Bitcake and eat it, too.

I don’t fancy that I could stop “those kinds of BIGGER players”, a.k.a. massive financial manipulators, from creating risky derivative clusterfucks. I have said that a few times, in various places here. My point is about regulation—especially, but not only, extra-jursidictional regulation by the Americans!

In the long term, the financial instruments and practices that I criticize can survive only in a regulated environment—viz., in the type of systemically corrupt-by-design regulatory environment at which Americans most excel (although with the advanced Progress™ of the current year, no country is very much better in that regard). There, they are protected from natural consequences. Quotable nullius: In the soil of regulatory corruption, the seeds of folly grow “too big to fail”. You know the end of that road! “The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks” Right back where we started.

Bitcoin can get along much better without Nanny American-CFTC pretending to protect it, and actually doing the long-term opposite. Let people do things that I dislike with Bitcoin; no matter how I may wish that I were Imperator, dictator perpetuo with the power to stop them, it seems that I’m not, and I can’t. And they are not protected from failing. Ultimately, when the moral hazards created by regulations go away, people must learn to stop doing the hazardous things—or else, the people creating the hazards just go bankrupt. As I have said before, in Bitcoin, the risk is not systemic.

—Unless, that is, Bitcoiners get the attitude that we need to recreate the exact same financial system that we are trying to escape. But now, with Blockchain™! “The Times 03/Jan/2029 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for Blockchain banks”

Damn, on which point did I recently find myself quoting Karl Marx!?

Quote from: nullius on October 04, 2020, 03:15:12 PM

Not that I would expect for [most people] to know enough political theory to be self-aware on this point—or to possess self-awareness on any point.

“Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.” — Karl Marx

A stage prop.

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Extra boldface has been added to this post, because I’m afraid the size=smaller parts of my above-quoted post were too shy to get attention.

N.b., I am NOT a follower of Rand, or Rothbard, or Mises, any of those schools of thought that are so popular in this space. I don’t idealize Capitalism—to the contrary; as a modern dogma, it is the flipside of Communism. (Title of Marxist Bible: Capital.) I am not a votive at the altar of the Invisible Hand of the Free Market. I do not fancy that market economics could create Utopia (or, for that matter, that Utopia would not actually be Dystopia).

I simply realize that at this point in history, the very best that we can do is to NOT take “cures” that are worse than the disease. Hailing the intervention of the American CFTC in the Bitcoin markets outside American jurisdiction is like infecting yourself with HIV because you are worried about Covid. You still have the original worry—and now, you have a much worse problem!

I said earlier in this thread about BitMEX, in reply to ivomm’s speculation about CME (so to speak), with boldface in the original:

Quote from: nullius on October 03, 2020, 11:09:00 PM

If it is not something that can be done safely in an unregulated market, then maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in an unregulated market. Don’t try to create the clusterfork of the bank-run financial markets in Bitcoin.

Thus concluded a post which began, with large boldface in the original:

Quote from: nullius on October 03, 2020, 11:09:00 PM

Who appointed the United States and its institutions to supervise Bitcoin?

Bigger and blower he is your answer:

Trump