Quote from: elasticband on March 05, 2014, 08:18:48 PM

Quote from: The Avenger on March 02, 2014, 05:00:11 PM

30 days left to tape out Neptune

FUD

FACT not FUD. It's an absolute fact, based on how long it takes to fab chips. To deliver in Q2, they had to tape out in March.

I'm not even going to go over the rest. You have a few things in there regarding the datacentre, not Neptune, and the datacentre situation has not changed.

I'll add I was *not* the one making statements of fact knc would never deliver a physical 20nm product and that they never planned to make one in the first place. Nothing to do with me.

I *was* the person says their datacentre broke all their promises to customers and is going to make neptunes worthless. It still is. Anyone who got a refund and bought about 15-20 BTC did about as well as will be possible out of the deal. If antminers are shipping in 3 days, they are still a much better choice for your money than waiting for neptune.

And before you cream you pants any further:

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First tapeout is rarely the end of work for the design team. Most chips will go through a set of spins in which fixes are implemented after testing the first article. Many different factors can cause a spin, including:

The taped-out design fails final checks at the foundry due to problems manufacturing the design itself.
The design is successfully fabricated, but the first article fails functionality tests.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape-out
(Edit: Whoops, didn't notice kendog already posted this a few back. Sorry dude.)

The fact they have announced they taped out does not mean all that much in itself, other than they like boasting and are hoping to scare their competition. Other than it's their second official annoucement about Neptune in almost 4 months. Now that the math is out of the way, they have to start dealing with the real-world problems of sourcing components, manufacturing processes, errors, delays etc. There is a difference between FUD and being realistic.