Quote from: nullius on October 23, 2020, 09:49:19 PM

In Defence of Privacy

Quote from: Steamtyme on October 23, 2020, 08:13:30 PM

Quote from: zasad@ on October 23, 2020, 06:50:43 AM

What else do I need to do to make sure you don't think badly of me?

Nothing. You are doing nothing wrong. Any negative feedback you receive would get sorted in a very similar fashion to the last instance.

Don't worry about what people think, and definitely don't go changing just because someone on the internet thinks you could possibly be infringing on someone's privacy by offering them the chance to answer questions. It's not like you are forcing people into this or combing through post histories to create a profile for individuals against their will.

My advice ignore this feedback. Even the threat of negative doesn't fit with what negative feedback is for. Should you chose to take an unhealthy obsession in Lauda and dedicate your days to trying to find out who they are, it's not against forum rules to seek out information. Are we tagging anyone who researches Satoshi? No.

The worst thing you can do, is change who you are and how you act in an attempt to please everyone.

In sum, not only do you not respect privacy, but you are even against anyone who does.

This is a cypherpunk forum, where the reasonable members value freedom and respect privacy. It was Lauda’s ethos. It is also one of my own strongest principles. Although unfortunately, there can be reasons sometimes to seek information about people who did something to deserve that, I would never pry into forum members’ personal lives out of mere curiosity.

By your example: If Satoshi’s friends expressed a concern for his privacy, then you should respect that, and back the fuck off!

Speculating about Satoshi based on public information is not analogous to my above question. If somebody was fishing for The Real True Secret Story from people who were more or less close to Satoshi, then that would be a matter of grave concern to me. Satoshi does NOT deserve that!

I didn’t pry into Lauda’s details, either—even though she was my friend, and she trusted me sufficiently that she probably would have leaked some info to me. I didn’t ask—not seriously, never; and not at all, besides our long-running joke interrogation over whether she is male or female. And that is one good reason why she trusted me. On the flipside, I would have given her my full dox with KYC ID, selfies, and fingerprints if she had asked! She never asked anything. Never pried. Not a curious cat, in that particular aspect. “Superlatively trustworthy.”

Disrespect for privacy is untrustworthy—both in general, and most specifically on a forum where most of the members want to be more or less anonymous. Really, Mr “Steamtyme”, do you want people digging around about you? Do you want for people to “offer the chance to answer questions” (!) about you? What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander.

I am a privacy activist, and I hold my principles consistently. As for you, if you dislike respect for privacy, I suggest that you stop bugging the forum, and retreat to your true home on Facebook.

Don't forget your cape. Oh what luck the only defender of privacy has come for me, the anti-privacy incarnate.

Sorry to disappoint but the tales you are weaving are really doing you a disservice. I get it your anonymous internet friend has left you and there is a void. Maybe this is your path to grieving with the anger and lashing out I don't know... don't really care as a matter of fact.

You're right there are a lot of people here who have done a bang up job protecting their irl identities. There are hundreds more who value their irl privacy. The fact of the matter is though, every single person who has ever posted on this forum has given away a private part of themselves. You know why?? This is a public fucking forum, not Lauda's personal diary. So forgive me if I don't give a shit that someone who built up a "celebrity" type of reputation has peoples interests peaked by dropping a farewell bomb on the forum.

Lauda could have accomplished a much more private departure by simply departing. Drop a message down the old Batline from the Cat cave to theymos and privately had their account locked. So many private options it's almost unreal. Then there's the friend who is trying to stop people from doing perfectly normal things, but can't stop posting in, and as a by-product bumping the thread itself. Then gets upset when someone suggest getting it locked, possibly preventing it from becoming a spam megathread. Pretty sure Lauda hated spam as well.

Now discussing the forum and it's roots. Forum principles are heavy on the freedom, and definitely come with the message about how important ones privacy can be. I can't speak to the individuals who arrived near founding or their motivations, but the freedom aspect is easy. It's interesting how freedom to oh say ask questions, or inquire or speculate about someone, goes out the window as soon as it touches on your insecurities around privacy. The key here is people are responsible for themselves - this includes the level of privacy they maintain, the reputations they build and how they conduct themselves. Lauda made choices, including building a reputation they parlayed into great business opportunities for themselves. They also made choices to remain secure and unlinked to an irl personality, to a great degree I imagine, as there have been countless enemies attempting to unmask them. So if anyone ever unravels the mystery of Lauda it will have been through the cats own actions.

I don't know if your trying to threaten me mister privacy advocate. Thing is I'm not going anywhere, I would have ignored you long ago but the repeated threats around the misuse of the feedback system keeps me around. I clearly stated in my answers that I was blissfully ignorant to how poorly I guarded my privacy, but it also wouldn't have mattered. I have made decisions that have given up details about myself in the interest of trading and building relationships. So just because I made those decisions doesn't mean that I do not respect the privacy of others. That doesn't mean I am going to impose my opinion, beliefs or values on others, they are mine to internalize and live.

Someone may one day decide to dig into me, maybe they will call me Mr. Steamtyme, and I'll joke that's my dads name. Then I just imagine awkward silence as they realize I'm not that cool.

Quote from: nullius on October 23, 2020, 09:49:19 PM

On the flipside, I would have given her my full dox with KYC ID, selfies, and fingerprints if she had asked!
~snipped~
I am a privacy activist, and I hold my principles consistently.

All while discussing an individual who may have been compromised in some fashion.

You do you, I'll do me. You can continue to draw false conclusions about me and what I write I don't really care. I will however not allow you to use me to derail an individuals thread. Oh and seeing as you consider me untrustworthy, just place ~steamtyme in your trust list, neutral feedback could also be reasonable.