Quote from: mindrust on Today at 10:17:21 PM

I am not sure about all that.

I only saw Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama and Trump. I don't know anything before those but I can say Trump was by far the best one among these 4.

At least he didn't start pseudo-wars/create pseudo terrorist groups like Isis to sell guns to the Middle East. This fact alone is enough to make him a rockstar.

3 of those presidents are not like the other. They had grace and dignity, two qualities which are completely absent in Trump. You've overlooked the whole point that he is actively undermining the legitimacy of his own office to point out that he wasn't a war hawk. That's definitely a plus. But he's still a giant piece of shit.