Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on December 10, 2020, 10:20:43 PM

5 merit for the first person to provably get a tinder date after using the opening line "What's your PGP public key?"

Woah, dude, is o_e_l_e_o encouraging me to dox myself and others for merits? Or suggesting that intelligent people use social graph leeching, communications-monitoring mass-surveillance sites like Tinder? Huh

;-)

No Tinder here, and no public proofs of confidential activities. Nonetheless, this invokes a serious comment that I threw in here:

Quote from: nullius on September 29, 2020, 05:19:07 PM

I don’t kiss and tell. Get the easy-to-use Protonmail app, and nobody will ever even know that we were in contact. (Crypto protip, speaking from experience: Women love having ways to keep secrets.)

Intimate secrets. Secret diaries, secret love-notes, — whispers in the ear across the distance when we are apart, so that we can always be together.

Such things will not exactly entice a typical woman (or a typical anybody) to memorize gpg command-line switches. But if presented in a romantic, non-nerdy way, this will seduce her into Protonmail, or encrypted chat/voice/video apps, etc.

—And besides seduction, try fear, disgust, and a feeling of intimate violation. Show her this video, starting just before the 10-minute mark:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/17/edward-snowden-video-interview

Quote from: Alan Rusbridger and Ewen MacAskill, The Guardian, 2014-07-18 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/-sp-edward-snowden-interview-rusbridger-macaskill

Can he [Snowden] give an example of what made him feel uneasy? “Many of the people searching through the haystacks were young, enlisted guys, 18 to 22 years old. They’ve suddenly been thrust into a position of extraordinary responsibility, where they now have access to all your private records. In the course of their daily work, they stumble across something that is completely unrelated in any sort of necessary sense — for example, an intimate nude photo of someone in a sexually compromising situation. But they’re extremely attractive. So what do they do? They turn around in their chair and they show a co-worker. And their co-worker says, ‘Oh, hey, that’s great. Send that to Bill down the way’, and then Bill sends it to George, George sends it to Tom, and sooner or later this person’s whole life has been seen by all of these other people.”

The analysts don’t discuss such things in the NSA cafeterias, but back in the office “anything goes, more or less. You’re in a vaulted space. Everybody has sort of similar clearances, everybody knows everybody. It’s a small world. It’s never reported, because the auditing of these systems is incredibly weak. The fact that records of your intimate moments have been taken from your private communication stream, from the intended recipient, and given to the government, without any specific authorisation, without any specific need, is itself a violation of your rights. Why is that in the government database?”

How often do such things happen? “I’d say probably every two months. It’s routine enough. These are seen as sort of the fringe benefits of surveillance positions.”

It is no joke. I tightened up on opsec in my personal life, after I realized that the voyeuristic professional perverts at the NSA must have an outright pornographic view of years’ worth of my intimate moments that were NOT MEANT FOR SHARING. The NSA’s dragnet mass-surveillance is tantamount to a U.S. government-internal version of pinkmeth.

My private life is not intended to be a Ciphersex show for NSA creeps.

This is a serious motive to use no-backdoor encrypted communications, for any decent person who has dignity and self-respect.

Explain it to your date that way, and not in terms of your key size. Don’t show each other your bits until you get encrypted with her.