Quote from: The Pharmacist on Today at 03:43:06 PM

Quote from: Yogee on Today at 02:55:09 PM

Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.

Yeah. I sort of hate to see Ratimov get banned, but if he plagiarized something then at the very least he deserves a temp or a signature ban--and that would only be if Theymos agreed that he deserved such lenient treatment. I think I've only seen one or two members get their accounts restored, so it's rare.

It’s ironic that at this juncture, you mention theymos’ general hard line against plagiarism. For in the Russian Reputation topic, Ratimov is now claiming that theymos has answered this Meta topic (via global moderator request)—impliedly to his favour. I think that he is playing the language barrier, insofar as many of the Russian readers may not understand this discussion—unless they use Google Translate, of course! (Though every Russian will understand what I said to lovesmayfamilis—etc., etc.)

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 01:26:14 PM

Quote from: LVL F on Today at 01:17:28 PM

Создали топик Merit Source - Plagiarist
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.60

Слоупок, он уже как 10 дней там горит, там уже ответили почти все, включая модеров и теймоса(через запрос глобала)

А LVL F только рекомендует. Grin

С подключением.

Ends with usual conspiracy theories. Roll Eyes

Ratimov claims that only trolls are interested in this hereby Meta topic—indeed, that only trolls say that what he did is plagiarism:

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 07:05:38 PM

Которые уже отписались там или просто прошли мимо? Слоупок. Там уже давно разобрались, что это под плагиат не записать, только пачка троллей осталась дальше мусолить эту тему.

To my awareness, the only staff member who has commented publicly about Ratimov is Xal0lex, whose post on this topic was clearly wrong (as argued by myself and others in the ensuing pages). My discussion with mprep in the Rules thread, and mprep’s request for theymos’ opinion, was about the automated translation Rule #27, not the plagiarism rule; and it was a general question about the rules, not a specific question about the Ratimov case. (I also asked for a review of the plagiarism rule; but mprep declined to proceed with that.)

It looks like Ratimov is making this up as he goes along.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on Today at 03:43:06 PM

Quote from: nullius on December 08, 2020, 06:00:31 AM

I often spend hours of painstaking effort on one post. I know that some other high-merit users invest similarly.

It's obvious you do, though that tends to force other members to have to invest tons of time reading what you wrote, which I cannot consistently do I'm afraid. But that's a "me" problem and not a "you" one.

No problem. I know that many of my posts about philosophy, history, art, culture, or politics may be, shall we say, “not of common interest”. It is why I mostly chose to list highly original posts on topics of interest to every reasonably intelligent reader of this forum: Bitcoin, and privacy. (To make some other points by the way, I started with a 2017 Bitcoin post that is very vitriolic toward Bcashers; and I added in a few DT/forum community classics.)

That was not to brag about myself, but to illustrate why I care about this topic—and also to illustrate ScumBuster’s point, by contrast.

The production of original work would neither justify nor excuse plagiarism; however, there is still a difference in degree between an occasional cheater (= bad), and one who substantially fakes his whole reputation with rip-offs of others’ work (= worse). Ratimov and his supporters claim that he is oh so great. Any monkey can copy and paste articles, with or without Google Translate. If Ratimov is such a great contributor to the community, really, please: Where are his high-quality original contributions? Will the Superhero Ratimov deign to treat us to a portfolio shortlist of his knowledgeable, in-depth original work, like the list that I easily provided for myself?

I need not comment on what my list shows about Ratimov’s allegation that only trolls are interested in this Meta topic.

Quote from: wooI_Ioow on Today at 04:36:53 PM

Quote from: nullius on Today at 12:00:27 PM

On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27,

Yes, that was the connotation of my message. Literally the half of his Russian contribution is Google Translate copypasta which violates Rule #27. That Ratimov's rule#27- breaking-copypasta is so wide that it goes far beyond the scope of this thread and requires the new one filled in the details.

I suggest that it’s unnecessary to proliferate threads about Ratimov. There should probably be a Reputation topic about his DT status; but making too many Meta topics about one person would dissipate the signal, and raise the noise. Neither helps lead to appropriate actions; and it would be inconvenient for people to follow multiple threads about Ratimov. I offer this advice to help the Newbie.

If Ratimov is habitually breaking other forum rules, that is a Meta issue. Unless OP objects that it may dilute the focus of the topic on the most serious accusation of plagiarism, I propose that we should discuss that here.

I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs.