Quote from: Pizzalover420 on December 19, 2020, 03:18:11 PM

Atheist must deny basic math.

If every group of 3 contains 3 units, is a universal constant.
If every creation has a creator, is a universal constant.

There must be a creator of time, the Creator.

I`m not saying there is a god, but evidence provided to me by looking at anything and seeing it has a creator, leaves me to believe there is a Creator.

While this post is quite old but there is one point here.

When you see the phone and say it’s created, We’ll agree on that. You and me have saw a lot of phones being created and assembled, so we say the phone is created thus has a creator. Anyone saying else is a stupid and we will laugh at him. OK. I’m a stupid and I’ll say that the phone is painted not created. And it has a painter not a creator. You will come and tell me Shut up the fuck! We’ll have saw how phones are being started which is they are created not painted. Thus it has a creator not a painter.

Let’s come to universe, mate, did any god of your friends have created a universe while you are sitting with him? HAVE your ever saw universe being created or even painted or writted or played or converted or .....

We’ve never saw a universe being started. So I can’t call the universe ”created” because no one knows what have started the universe. Was it created by creator? Was it painted by painter? Was it written by writer? Was it fucked by fucker?
So the idea is here. We don’t know how universes are started. So we cant call them ’created’ thus have ’creators’. So it could have started by unknown kind of activity that our brains cant understand because its a metaphysical activity where there is no need to your brain there. Metaphysical world (out this universe) has nothing to do with your physical thoughts. Sure the created item has creator, the painted image has a painter. the written post has a writter. But WE DONT KNOW what happened to our universe to have it started because simple we don’t know how things are started in the metaphysical world .