Quote from: oventu on January 06, 2021, 08:58:01 PM

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On article, basically you have defined a country (or a state) actually and named it a community. As you know, the problem with nationality is that you can't change it easily. And due to known reasons, countries tend to not allow people to immigrate to their country without valid reason. The online communities (such as gaming, chess, tv show ones and soccer etc.) are accepting new members easily simply because those communities are not actually effecting the community members' lives. On the other hand, some communities like "freemasonry" are really picky in terms of having new members because the community, or part of being their community is effecting their lives a lot. Same goes for family too, even legally, adoption or marriage are things that take time, some paper work and some commitment and promises just because of their effect on individuals' lives. Now the same would go for a new community model. At one point, if the defined currency on the article starts effecting members' lives (it will be effecting because at the end, it's the financial value that they afford their lives) they will be picky and changing communities, or even joining a different one will be a huge problem just like changing our nationalities.

When I describe a community, the last thing in mind is an state or a country. The community is a collection of people in different sex, race, nationality and even geo-location. And the point is “People can interact with communities at different levels”.
That is the real virtue of system. People can be only user of the money of a community as a "medium of exchange" or as a "store of value", and do no more engagement. Pretty like using USD in other countries. The Americans can not stop others using their Dollar, instead they will be more happy if the other nations prefer their dollar! More demand for their money results more valuable money. Thus communities will propagate their money, they will do everything to show how much heir money is good and how valuable is -comparing other communities monies-.
In deeper level, people can involve a little more and participate in community activities and decision making. In this stage may actual community members expose a level of pickiness. that’s ok too.
When I refer the “exchange rate” as a “excellence index” I do not emphasis on how internal mechanisms of a community will be! Instead I emphasis on how exposure of communities will be. In other world if many people believe in community X is a great community and wishes to join community X (either an ordinary citizen that has citizenship rights, or an active citizen in decision makings) or at least have some of their money, it denotes excellence and greatness in community X. thus the problem wont be the target community, instead will be the origin community which is no longer our favorite community and we want to leave it as soon as possible. In order to leave your current community you just need to get ride of its money. You want to sell your coins which are belonged to a corrupted community. More and more people will think like you, so more and more supply, more devaluation of coins. No need to violence.

Quote from: oventu on January 06, 2021, 08:58:01 PM

I think you should first address the issues about how people form their relations with others, based on those others' effect on one's life, then the community idea could be further developed.

I addressed this question in other article comments here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306920.msg56037080#msg56037080
BTW I repeat some parts here.
In my proposal, the first and primitive community will be a community of developers (not only software developers but also translators, designers, educational staff, etc). The first and main goal of this community is developing the software itself and improving it. This community ships that free and open-source software. In the journey of developing the software we learn how will be the ideal community(or communities). We will start to constructive interact with each other, cultivate our “common world”, learn and educate the principles, define our core values, and help to rise up community reputation and strengthen our money.

Quote from: oventu on January 06, 2021, 08:58:01 PM

Plus, as an example, legally I can't pay my taxes in any other currency than our national one. So I will have to exchange that community's currency to my national one at some point (just like Bitcoin exchange to fiat) because at the end, my government is the one that is building the roads and funding the army as well as feeding the stray cats.

This will be long long journey. I do not expect next year pay my taxes by community money, neither in next 10 years. We have to move step by step. For start we can imagine less than one percent of our yearly turn over done by community money. First of all we have to find some place to spend our coins in order to circulate a rational cash flow – neither spend it ASAP nor Hodl it for ever-. It should be started from online activities. e.g. some freelance working. Then it could be stretched to real-life by some small activities like gardening or dog walking or …
we do not wait for giant payment/service platforms like (paypal, gaming industry or Spotify, itunes, etc…) Neither exchanges. they are not our friend at all. They love fluctuation. They do everything to keep market unstable.
In long run, if we do great and our community money work better than Bitcoin, we will be the mainstream money, so no one needs to exchange community money to fiat in order to buy goods and services. It is all up to us.

Quote from: oventu on January 06, 2021, 08:58:01 PM

A community based online future would require community members settling down together at some physical location due to humans being a physical matter and not entities on the internet, and again, would be forming a state/country.

This is exactly the opposite of what I have in mind. These geographical constraints are the reason of our today’s human misery. Why poor African can not take part in Apple board members to name the price of their own minerals? Why s/he can not be a even simple shareholder of the company and benefit from company revenue? Why they have to leave in poverty and their minerals be used in all hi-tech chips and sold hundred dollars each? Is it fair? Absolutely no. In our future communities there must be no discrimination based on race, sex, nationality or geological location.
The horizon is decentralize everything, particularly “decision making”. We have only one world and until now we ruined it more than enough, because all our solutions are concentrated to people one area in cost of destroying other places.
Indeed the future economy is online economy and interaction between online entities, so let's be a “decider” instead of a “naive consumer”.