Quote from: suchmoon on February 04, 2021, 07:58:18 PM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on February 04, 2021, 07:36:19 PM

I have staked a 10%/day coins and I profited off it for 2 years. It wasn't a scam.

Gotcha. If you made a profit from a scam then it's not a scam. If you were one of Madoff's first clients and made a profit then he wasn't a scammer. Everyone agreed from the beginning etc.

Just GTFO.

Got me huh? Exactly what do you have? You make many blanket assumptions. It's beyond obvious that people at the beginning of a Ponzi will win earn money. That is what a Ponzi is.
10% per day was the tokens staking rate. If you don't like it don't buy it, it is very simple. The token did not advertise itself as a get rich scheme. It said what it was and nothing else. Besides, you couldn't even buy them.
All the noobs earned them and the bigger bagholders with money to burn bought the tokens up in mass.

I am also not sure how much trading you guys do but in order for someone to make money someone else must lose some. This is why some people like to call crypto a ponzi/scam.
Basically, we shifting our coins to the next user for profits.

Your double standards are amazing. What do you tell yourself about wearing your signature? I know your get paid a ridiculous amount. In the land of fiat mixing is called money laundry. You can tell me whatever you want but at the end of the day a mixer is a laundry for crypto. There are very few reasons to legitaitly use a mixer. How much criminal ,money goes through it? It was even in the news that a whole bunch of bitcoin was mixed from the black market selling drugs, fire arms and the like.

But yes I am a terible person for being paid by a company that makes no claims if you do not like it do not inverst. It is called an investment box and it is a game. Obviously you cannot give such high returns.

Tell yourself whatever you like. You are supporting money laundry and crime bascially. Real crime not little online scams. Actually drug money laundry.

Quote from: Vod on February 04, 2021, 08:38:32 PM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on February 04, 2021, 07:36:19 PM

If everyone agrees on something from the begining how can it be a scam?
They do not garnatee you any returns unlike ponzi which claim the world to you.

1) OGNasty and Pirate agreed in advance to lose 99% of coins in their pass through ponzi. Do you think that was a scam, or do you not care?

2) For the second time - ponzis promise unsustainable returns, not guaranteed returns. If the US government issues a Covid bond with a guaranteed return of 2.5%, it's not a ponzi.

3) If Suchmoon feels a neutral trust is warranted, I won't escalate with a negative. Good luck.

1) I have no idea what you are talking about but I know OGnasty had a mining rig setup for investors. Renting our ming hashrate is very easy and there is no need to scam. Of course I care.

2) For the third time these are high inflation coins. The dev doesn't pay for the coins and can make it 1000000000% a day if the so desire. These are not returns. These are multiples of existing coins.
a con that has a daily 10% pos you would need to carefully plan to make sure that the value is more than the decline. This token promised nothing and was free to earn.

Yobit have an investment box. It is a game. In fact Yobit mostly cater for those who are already rich. They offer you a change to basically have a "seat" in a high yield program. You think there is no risk it is free and they promote it as such? Nope. YOu have to spend a large amount of collateral upfront in order to invest. Seeing at the collateral is i nthe form of YO token Yobit does not need to pay a cent for the tokens and makes 100% profit. Yo token is a Raise only currency and continues ti very slowly go up. Once more this is all free for Yobit ands generates them a lot of profit. They also have gambling dice with a 4% house edge and people still play.
Then there are thje listing fees they charge.

They also warn you beforehand when the investment pool is going to run out. So basically they make their money selling YO token place 50% of that in an investment pool which people have access to if they own certain coins. This does not attract noobs because noobs do not have access to this much crypto. I losts 0.27btc at yobit and I am not cross. I played the game and I lost. I know the risks.
We chose to play a risk game of high interst coins. Some lost some won. We all know the rules.