Quote from: freebit13 on March 10, 2014, 06:39:58 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 10, 2014, 06:28:38 PM

Well put, Octaft.

I was going to make some similar point about pie in the sky about some of the simplistic points that some posters are making when they believe that "public" services are going to be voluntarily picked up by private entities in the event of NO government. And, our example need NOT only be roads, but that is a good one just to illustrate a point on one topic.

Accordingly, in order to evolve in that direction of potentially less government (whether we can ever make it to NO government would be another story), we would need to plan, rather than willy-nilly elimination.

Ok, then let's not be simplistic and just stick to roads... what other 'public' services can you think of that nobody would voluntarily pick up for money?

Oh and to clear up another misconception, 'voluntary interactions' doesn't mean 'for free', it means you decide to do it voluntarily, out of your own free will.

P.S. oh yeah and how are these 'poor' workers getting to work on the bus at the moment, is it free where you live?

Certainly, there are going to be varying degrees to which services will be provided depending upon how necessary the contributors believe the services to be. There are public benefits in many services that are regulated, as well.

We could name almost anything.

Water, gas, electricity, airwaves, hospitals, schools, security, policing, military, busses, trains, planes, labor, financial...

It is a quagmire.. and each service has its own various argument and priorities. I still DO NOT see the point in getting into a big discussion of each of these... b/c even posters are getting into arguments about whether bitcoin is the solution to all of this mess.. ... and in my view bitcoin is NOT going to solve these kinds of matters in the near-term - however, it is likely that bitcoin could contribute towards various solutions, since many of us on this thread (especially those who are long-term bull-ish on bitcoin) realize that bitcoin is likely to transform many aspects of societal interactions.

I seem to recall that this whole conversation about the role of government came from the statement that theft and taxes is the same... .. and NOW the conversation has devolved into a full blown discussion of the role of government and whether services would be provided voluntarily, in the event that there were NO government.