Quote from: mikeywith on February 10, 2021, 07:31:12 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on February 10, 2021, 04:19:24 PM

I thought of that possibility too. It would be interesting (but painstaking) to cross-check all addresses ever posted by all participants.

Enough shocks for this month, can you do that a month later?. Grin

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When you think about it, blockchain evidence is hard to deny even if someone tries to frame you, imagine if someone wants to connect your account to an alt, they can easily send you funds from the address they use for another signature campain, or send it to the address you send to, of course, I'd imagine another chipmixer participant won't attempt that unless they are willing to lose their spot in the process, but it all can be done "theoretically".

This brings up a question, is there someone who is willing to spend some BTC for an extended period just to frame someone?

I'm surprised this hasn't been done much more to be honest as it's very easy to do and just create a throwaway account to 'expose' it and let the feeding frenzy of default trust warriors go in for the kill. Somone would have to be pretty pissed off at you but who here hasn't annoyed someone at one point and we all know how petty some people can be.

Quote from: DaveF on February 10, 2021, 07:44:58 PM

Quote from: mikeywith on February 10, 2021, 07:31:12 PM

This brings up a question, is there someone who is willing to spend some BTC for an extended period just to frame someone?

I guess it would depend on the amount of BTC vs. the desire for revenge / screwing with people and their own economic situation.

If you REALLY REALLY pissed me off and for $30 week for 9 months (36 weeks) so a bit less then $1100 it might just be worth it. If I could really screw with you.
**But it would have to have done something really over the top for me to do that. Like ulta horrible, it's just not me or my thing. Others may feel differently.**

Well it doesn't really matter how much was sent. All it takes is one transaction to link an address to another.

Quote from: nutildah on February 10, 2021, 09:36:50 PM

Here's where things start to get a little off the rails:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on February 10, 2021, 06:35:09 AM

Were @darkstar_ to compile a list (indeed *any* Campaign Manager) something like that would stand out like a sore thumb.

While doing this may yield interesting results further worth pursuing, it's a great way to get a lot of innocents caught up in the crossfire and suspecting people of being alts on this criteria alone is a bad idea.

And that's where timelord fucks up. He's used worse parameters than that before for allegedly tying up accounts often verging on the ridiculous.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on Today at 01:06:48 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 10, 2021, 04:49:35 PM

Well it happened to me too, figmentofmyass also contacted DT members asking them to either remove me from their trust list or add me to their distrust list.

I did question why but the idea of sock-puppets or alt-accounts never really came to my mind. I now think I must given red trust to one of his alt-accounts and that must have struck a nerve therefore he tried his best to manipulate others against me.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on February 10, 2021, 06:35:09 AM

Well... Well... Well...

So the DT1 Troll figmentofmyass who DT distrusted me and spent many months convincing other DT1 Trolls that my investigations into alts was wild hysteria has been proven to be in actual fact an alt scammer him/herself scamming from the largest SigCamp.

Thanks for your good wishes @JollyGood , as sad as it sounds, unfortunately for the moment at least, we are stuck with DT1 Trolls who will attempt to undermine our work.

You undermine your own work with faulty conclusions and by the trust abuse you commit. Any 'good' work you do is invalidated when you use nonsense to tie other accounts together. You can't thrown 50 darts at board and congratulate yourself when one of them manages to stick in whilst the rest fall to the floor.