Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 09:53:55 PM

It sounds like you would make everyone into a merit source with an unlimited amount of smerits and I don't think that would work. On top of that, anything based on ranks is doomed to fail. Ranks don't make the person or their judgement any more valuable.

That's without even going into the pitfalls of negative merits/downvoting. This has been discussed a lot, particularly at the start of the merit system, and I don't recall any particularly robust abuse-proof ideas on how to implement it.

Why would it matter?
You said that without specific criteria to measure against good poster and bad poster are meaningless terms?

Make up your mind fool.

If the merit metric is meaningless then who cares who gives it out?

Actually if there were criteria and requirements for allocating merit then it who gives it out would matter a lot less.

Of course trust in financial terms has nothing to do with making an objectively good post.

Suchmoon et al will fight against any changes to the broken status quo that hands her and her greedy non achieving pals chipmixer sigs and all the other rev streams here.

Also being able to block legitimate scammer warnings based on independently variable evidence is another thing suchmoon likes having the power to do..

I dont think objective readers can take anything this self debunking fool who was previously claiming the merit metric was a useful and sensible metric to base the trust system and was clearly correlated to good posters. ...then says merit is meaningless.
Fights against the introduction of transparent objective standards as a basis for the trust system and is a proven scammer protector and enabler?

Want to debunk anything I've said then get specific. You wont

Whilst there is any financial incentive for abusing merit then it will be abused.

Merit should have zero implications for making money and zero implications for the trust system.
Just remove the stupid ill conceived garbage altogether. It's a cancer that killed the forum for the reasons explained 1000x that nobody can debunk.

You place everyone's paid2post capacity under the control of handful of greedy proven losers and guess what happens.
They make sure only the cream off all the good rev streams and starve off any competition.
On top of this since they have zero achievements for years all they have is catching 2 bit scammers and then other DT members offer to repatriate them to the forum if they use their paid services.

There is zero merit to the merit system and never can be. Whilst there is financial incentive to abuse a system wide open to abuse guess what happens?

It created way more problems than it solved. I dont notice any greater improvement here at all. There is less spam but there is nobody left lol

Guess what. People who want transparent decentralized trustless provably fair projects and systems dont want to be exploited and raped by the merit central banking system theymos created. When a tiny tiny few issue merits out of their ass make sure each other are their own top fans and recipients and then use the trust system via the merit earned votes to control every single aspect of everyone else's ability to paid2post, trade, speak freely, whistleblow. Whilst they can scam with impunity, block valid scam warnings and take all the best rev streams...lol

What ? the forum is dead ? Wonder why

I mean what's the incentive to post? Or contribute?

I mean even if you dont care about earning money from posting and there is no evidence of financially motivated wrongdoing anywhere in your history theymos will put a bunch of lies and defamation on your threads telling everyone that other members have reported you're a scammer??
Then to real scammers he will say oh I'm very sorry to see you leaving the forum lol

Sounds crazy right? Try to debunk a core point here that I've made.
I double dare you.

The OP suggestion is better then the scammy centralized merit banking system we have but it will not solve abuse whilst there is financial incentives to abuse it.

Now where is my fucking merit?

I come here daily posting very UNPOPULAR truths that nobody can debunk or even field a compelling counter argument against.
Therefore bringing the most value to this derelict corrupt echo chamber?
I mean the hidden and unpopular truth is not valuable ?
It is the most valuable content here in meta bar none

Of course it wont get get merit...like my predecessors recieved fuck all merit.
The truth is poison to meta sources and DT1 sig spamming scammer shielding trust abusers.

Read, comprehend, accept.

Or debunk a some of my points??

Or cry trolling, I'll tell theymos, ban the truth.