Quote from: eddie13 on February 21, 2021, 09:01:46 PM

Isoneguy is who fucked up there.. Then went batshit crazy..
I remember this topic..

Pretty good summary..

Quote from: Bitfort on July 23, 2017, 03:55:15 AM

OK seems I have lost a track a bit. ( so far I was thinking ognasty already told you he sent the refund back but to uknown address )

Lets sum it.
- isoneguy sent BTC to ognasty ( from coinbase ).
- trade failed so isoneguy requested to return BTCs
- but isoneguy did not wanted to be refunded to sending address (coinbase)
- ognasty haven't send any refund yet as he has not received any signed message from sending address (which is impossible if it was coinbase)

My impresion is ognasty just strictly following his rule nr. 2 which I appreciate.

Quote from: OgNasty on September 27, 2013, 06:08:49 AM

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2. I will not refund a Bitcoin address that is not the sending address without a signed message from the sending address.
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That means the mistake definitely happened on isoneguy side as he used third party walllet provider (without access to private key) not being aware of escow rules (again isoneguys mistake)
Thus you can't blaim ognasty for strictly following his own (public known) rules. If you did't read it it's your fault.

OP may have as firm a grasp of escrow as he does subforums..

I miss Spoetnik.. Sad

Some points that you are not aware of or are ignoring. OgNasty did not inform the customer of his rules, he did not have them linked in his signature and as a result the customers expectations were not in line with his rules. If you are running an escrow service it is on you to ensure that your rules are known. It's as simple as stating such and linking to your rules. His customer did not know that OgNasty would only refund to the address he received from. I'll acknowledge his customer was not easy to deal with. I acknowledged it in the scam accusation thread and I had to go back and forth with him over his abuse of the trust system. At no point have I said or implied that the customer does not bare any responsibility. But when you look at it objectively you see the following things.

- OgNasty did not make his rules known and he did not ask the customer if they knew his escrow rules before doing business.
- OgNasty knowingly refunded to an address the customer said they did not control and relied on his rules as an excuse even though he made no effort to inform his customer of his rules.
- OgNasty didn't make any effort to find another solution to his customers issues. Instead as best I can tell he antagonized his own customer.
- OgNasty made accusations against me for which he has no proof yet he submits them as if they were facts.

In the end OgNasty ran a shit service and punished both his customer for his own laziness and punished me for honestly evaluating the scam accusation. In addition he accused me of things he has no evidence for and put those accusations in writing. I put nothing in writing that cannot be corroborated in the Scam Accusation thread.