Quote from: Mauser on February 22, 2021, 08:20:27 AM

Quote from: Vod on February 16, 2021, 09:21:13 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 16, 2021, 08:49:19 PM

Still no scientific proof against the existence of God. Simply play-babies' theory stories and mumblings, as expected from jokers who believe in the religion of science, rather than understanding science.

God exists - there is evidence of it everywhere if you are religious or scientific. God has no intelligence - god just is. There is scientific proof the bible is wrong though.

That is an interesting take on God and religion. I agree that the bible is just wrong because it is not old enough. If there was God 2000 years ago, then there also was a God 4000 years ago and much earlier too. I would like to the foul proof evidence that God exists though.

The Bible starts out talking about God creating the heavens and the earth in the beginning. Moses probably wrote this between 1400 and 1500 BC, the start of the Bible. He wrote it according to God's instruction, but he had the info available from historical writings in Egypt, because he was a Hebrew who happened to be a top prince of Ancient Egypt for the first 40 years of his life.

The Old Testament of the Bible is a record of time back to the beginning. We have two witnesses to the timeline of the earth, listed in the Bible. These are the writings of Josephus from the first century AD, and the Septuagint O.T., originally from around 250 BC. Both were taken from the Hebrew of their days. Both are very similar in their timelines, the Septuagint being a translation of the Hebrew O.T. into Greek.

Why were the Ancient Hebrew people important? Because God took them from the nations of the world, and made them to be important, for His own purposes. They had to keep His words and laws. When they didn't, the Bible record shows how God became angry with them and punished them.

The reason they kept the writings of the Bible pure is because God promised that the Savior of the world would come to us all through them. However, God, Himself, directs the ways things are done, so that His Word is kept pure.

The latest original writings of books of the O.T. were done a little prior to 400 BC.

Part of the reason why there was a need for the Bible in the first place, was because the history record of the world was being corrupted. We can see this right now through modern theoretical science suggesting that the universe is billions of years old, and then through some willful people maintaining these wrong theoretical ideas as truth.

The Septuagint and Josephus both show that the Ancient Hebrew people understood the creation to have been done by God at a time that is only about 7,500 years in the past from our times. This record can be followed through the Bible, into the past, starting with the well-documented fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians around 587 BC. It isn't easy to follow, but the info is there.

What is wrong with our science that suggests billions of years? Beyond about 5,000 years back, there is only assumption about how old things are. We can only date pottery back this far. There are flaws in carbon dating and other similar dating methods. There is controversy in the dates of the various ancient nations that are recorded in their timelines in their ancient writings on walls and clay tablets.

The Bible is a clear flowing, living record that goes back to Moses, and expresses the history of the world since the beginning, right down to times that we can follow until today. We don't have to believe the Bible record timeline. If we put down our desires to believe our theoretical science, we can see the Bible timeline facts.

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