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Rich should give money to poor? That's how it should be but that is never going to happen. One thing if ever I believe should happen is, there should be highest tax on the biggest earners and lowest possible tax on the lower earning people which ultimately helps the poor earn more and cuts of some extra from the rich and serves the same purpose as rich giving to the poor, indirectly.

That's already happening. I am paying around 35% of my salary as tax, while some of my poor neighbors don't pay any tax at all. On the other hand, I am not eligible for any welfare handouts from the government, while the non-tax paying neighbors are automatically eligible. I hardly get anything in return for the taxes I pay. This is how the system works. And in the end, the welfare rats always cry that the rich are not helping them.

The meaning of the topic is not a bit about taxes. It meant that you should force rich people to "share" their money with the poor. Taxes are a little different. Taxes form budgets that provide social security and other "services" that the state provides, including you. Taxes are PENSIONS, taxes are social assistance, taxes are medicine, and much more. When you retire, you will receive it from taxes that others pay. This is normal practice. But just take your money from your wallet and give it to a lumpenized citizen who simply does not want to work but wants to live well - this is not acceptable, I completely agree here. The principle is simple - if you are not a person with disabilities - WORK! No education - there is a lot of work that does not require higher education or specialized knowledge!

Your thoughts have ups and downs. Yes, I agree that it is not acceptable for those lazy-ass to just sit tight, and wait for money to come by their way, only for them to spend it to beers and any other things unnecessary. BUT, there are other POOR that works really hard, yet barely able to financially buy their needs, and that is in blame of the capitalist system. Privileges are not for everybody, there are people given that since birth, and others just not have it. We can easily say and tell them to FIND SOME WORK, even if you don't have education, but are we really seeing the bigger picture, as we pout this thing indiscriminately?. Cause there are many factors affecting someone to not have a job, not just education!

Truly poor ... Yes, I absolutely agree with you. There are really poor countries where poverty is a "tradition" or a bad habit. But there are reasons for this. Take the TOP 10 poorest countries for example. Tell me - what unites them? As a rule, these are totalitarian regimes or their legacy. Or the countries "ran away from capitalism towards socialism, but stumbled half way." Poverty in these countries has an explanation and a reason. One of the main reasons is the lack of normal stable governance in the country, the legal framework and guarantees for investors. No offense will be said to them, but over the past decade, these countries have greatly degraded, the economy has been destroyed, the financial system has been destroyed, investment attractiveness is zero. In these countries there WILL NOT be a less secure life until they change their situation. And no matter how much money they are given, they will either be stolen or simply devoured. It makes no sense to give them money just like that - they will simply "burn out". Money should be invested in educating the population, invested in economic development, but not be eaten. And until they themselves want it and correct the situation inside, the situation will not change.

Though, I am not talking about the economic stability of a country in my reply. I talked about people who are POOR for some undefined reason, not just because of them not having education. These happens even in 1st world countries, its just that they are being covered up by the outer layer of the society, where it is fancy and rich.