Quote from: _Miracle on Today at 10:34:06 AM

Quote from: squatz1 on February 25, 2021, 08:07:33 PM

That’s most likely the goal of a lot of this, get the attention off of Newsom and his recall and get it onto something else. Maybe Cuomo will try something similar in NY cause he’s literally fighting for his political life over there.

Sounds like a very expensive initiative that hasn’t been tried before, at least on this scale, and is going to be an interesting thing for people to study in the years to come. This is the reason that the states being ‘laboratories of democracy’s is very interesting and allows for continued innovation.

Doubt this takes off, but I’m not a researcher so who the hell knows if it will go beyond California.

Just so everyone knows, this is a $600 payment to people making under 30k a year which will cost approx $2.3B

"laboratories of democracy"---if only we approached it this way

Newsom is up for re-election next year, the recall is a political angle that has been successful in the past. The Davis recall created a bit of a free for all gubernatorial race in 2003
there are probably better articles but Hoover is in my favorites bar
https://www.hoover.org/research/newsom-recall-lets-first-recall-how-it-happened-gray-davis

As for a permanent state level UBI? Alaska makes more sense in that it has a "hard resource".
Our agriculture wouldn't be a viable source and our tech economy is being put to the test right now, as in: do companies have to be in (expensive) Silicon Valley?
We couldn't even agree on allocating water resources (water wars---still happening and corrupt AF)

Also for real life perspective:
The mortgage on my duplex in South Carolina is less than $600 a month
The space for my RV in California (Silicon Valley adjacent) is $1100. a month

In some ways we do still use the laboratories of democracy to see what works in the states and then it'll be mimicked to some degree on the federal level. Ex: Romney Care and ObamaCare

Highly doubt Newsom is actually going to be recalled -- I think it'll make it to the ballot, but he'll survive. The state is a LOT more liberal today then it was in 2003 when David was recalled. Cuomo on the other hand, I'm not sure what the hell is going to happen to him -- though he can't be recalled, NYS law says so.