Quote from: eddie13 on February 28, 2021, 05:55:42 PM

Only vulnerable people should get the vaccine..
All of us healthy people should just eventually catch Covid and gain immunity the natural way..

But if you are young and healthy and catch Covid, and only have mild symptoms, you still spread the virus around, and potentially infect vulnerable people. If you take the vaccine you protect others.

Quote from: eddie13 on February 28, 2021, 05:55:42 PM

stupid masks.. They don’t do shit!! You don’t even really breathe THROUGH them..

Maybe they slightly reduce the spread of YOUR breath outwards, BUT THAT IS ALL!!

Same with this I suppose. The masks aren't perfect, but their main purpose is to stop the virus getting out through the mask to other people, rather than to stop it getting in. Masks are more about protecting others than about protecting yourself. Yes, I agree they're by no means 100% effective - but any protection, even partial, is better than none.

Quote from: Cnut237 on February 28, 2021, 03:15:57 PM

if you get vaccinated, you don't have to worry about me getting vaccinated or not. Anti-vaxxers is a word you have pulled out of your sleeve to disqualify without arguments. I am pro-vaccine, but I am against being forced to take this one.

You're right, I shouldn't group together everyone who doesn't want the vaccine. But regarding the point that 'if you get vaccinated, you don't have to worry about me getting vaccinated'... yes, I personally don't have to worry, but you can still infect others who haven't been vaccinated.

Quote from: Poker Player on February 28, 2021, 06:02:17 PM

no politician has wanted to impose quarantines and lockdowns only on the elderly because they knew they had a lot of votes to lose.

Finally, I totally agree with this. Almost all of the blame for the current situation lies with politicians not wanting to be unpopular. If every government around the world had implemented immediate 2-week quarantining of people entering the country, and had done so as soon as it became apparent that China had a problem in January 2020... then the result would have been no pandemic, no lockdowns within countries, no masks, etc. But governments aren't like that. They don't take action to prevent a problem, instead they wait until something becomes a problem, wait a bit longer until it becomes a really big problem, then finally, much too late, decide to try to do something about it.