Quote from: Richy_T on March 12, 2014, 12:34:11 AM

Quote from: octaft on March 12, 2014, 12:26:11 AM

Either/or, I'll take whatever I can get at this point, which so far is still nothing.

Well, the former is fairly straightforward, you can just start unrolling things in the direction from which they came. Step 1 is probably a balanced budget. Taper off federal government funds to the states over a period of 5-10 years (this should not be happening in the first place). Axe the dept of education, eliminate loopholes from the tax code. All this stuff has been done to death before. I'm not sure what you're looking for.

Oh, and let's not forget... Nuke the federal reserve from orbit.

I'm looking for better definition on where you stand.

Alright, let's take this further: the argument is that we would support the poor through voluntary charity, yes? Now let's say after 10 years, charity turns out to be woefully inadequate. Let's assume that -- while the world has not devolved into chaos and anarchy as a result of a lack of government -- that some are suffering because not everything went as planned. There's slums with no police protection because everyone that lives in the neighborhood can't afford it. How do we approach that? Are some things up for socialization, or is it all strictly no go, no budge?

Sure, the poor ain't doing so hot right now, but in order for the change to be worth it, it's not enough to be different. It's got to be better, and noticeably so. The problem is better is subjective, and not everyone will agree on, let alone know, what better really is.