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Obviously not. The Crypto Gambling Foundation doesn't require that for third party games otherwise Stake wouldn't be listed there anymore. When you play those games at stake.com, it's very clear that these are not internal Stake games.

I don't see any kind of requirements for membership on the CGF website. BitDice dropped or was dropped from the foundation a year and a half ago for hosting non-pf third party games. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857.msg52889340#msg52889340.

Thank you for the link but as I understand Bitdice hasn't been dropped from the Crypto Gambling Foundation for that, they withdrew themselves from it.

Quote from: cwil on Today at 02:54:18 PM

I can't say I really care about the CGF, but I do think Stake or the CGF should clarify its stance on third party games and explain how this situation is any different from BitDice. OneHash deserves the same scrutiny.

Yes you are right the CGF should certainly clarify its stance on the matter, but I didn't see Stake claiming anywhere they were offering provably fair games only. Unfortunately IMO, most of gamblers don't care about the provably fairness of the games, they are just looking for funny games.

Point is that foundaton is made to protect players from shady operators and all operators\members are required to use provably fair system.
I posted this into Cryptogambling thread but nobody responded yet, seems it was made only for marketing purposes of Stake and Primedice.
The key is that they can cheat you while you're unable to prove that if you play third party games. For moral reasons Stake should be delisted from Cryptogambling.org, other sites listed are truly provably fair and without any shady games.

That's a pretty harsh statement. Currently they are listing 14 gambling sites as I can see. Stake and Primedice are just listed among them, and there are platforms also offering 3rd party games (onehash, rocket.run,...) in this list. So I don't see how they could promote Stake and Primedice more than the other gambling platforms of their listing. Undecided