Quote from: The Pharmacist on Today at 02:09:04 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 25, 2021, 11:57:59 PM

I think it is an inappropriate use of the trust system for anybody to give positive trust ratings to users just because they received negative trust that was (or could debatably be deemed as being) in breach of the trust system.

I don't think it's inappropriate, but I refuse to do it nonetheless. There are a few things that could go wrong when doing so, including the original neg being removed while the counterpositive remains (for whatever reason). I also don't like leaving a positive for someone unless there's a damn good reason, and a wrongly-left negative--even though it's not right--doesn't rise to that level IMO.

OP, there's a lot that's wrong with the trust system we have, and there haven't been any significant improvements in my time here. Since there aren't any hard rules telling members what they can and can't do, everyone is basically free to interpret the spirit of the trust system as they see fit--regardless of any consensus among DT members or anyone else.

It's almost pointless debating stuff like this since people will likely continue leaving counter-positives and there aren't going to be any consequences for doing so (even if it were against the rules or even frowned upon).

I concur, there is a lot wrong with the trust system but thankfully we have one even with all the flaws because as you say we all interpret it how we want. To a large degree it does work well but it just needs tweaking. I have to agree when you say it is almost pointless to debate topics such as this one for the reasons you stated.

Quote from: Vod on Today at 06:39:14 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on Today at 12:51:44 PM

Having 3 votes in the poll has been somewhat disappointing...

Think of it as a teaching moment. This forum has already made it's owners and friends insanely rich.

I had to laugh after reading your post. Becoming rich or insanely rich, or not making it one bit is all about the timing and obviously many of us missed the boat on that one. I will take your advice and think of it as a learning curve and learn from it Wink

Quote from: Quickseller on Today at 07:32:19 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 25, 2021, 11:57:59 PM

There are cases where deserved or not, negative trust has been left for a user. Then another user comes along and deems that negative trust as wrong/unfair/inappropriate or as a breach of the trust system and decides to leave positive trust for the same recipient stating it is to counter previous feedback.

I think it is an inappropriate use of the trust system for anybody to give positive trust ratings to users just because they received negative trust that was (or could debatably be deemed as being) in breach of the trust system.

I disagree with this premise.

If there is no fact dispute, but Sally believes Bob is "high risk", Sally will leave a negative rating against Bob. Sally gives a lot of "good" ratings, and the rating does not appear to be in bad faith, so it would not make much sense to exclude Sally from the DT network. However there is still an "injustice" against Bob. Sam wants to correct this injustice and asks Sally to remove the negative rating, but Sally refuses. The only option is for Sam to leave a positive rating on Bob's trust profile with a note saying he does not agree with Sally's rating.

Anyone doing due diligence prior to trading with Bob will see both ratings, and can act accordingly. If Sally subsequently removes her negative rating, but for some reason Sam does not remove his counter rating, someone conducting due diligence would ignore Sam's rating.

This is an excellent scenario but what happens if Sally decides to take further action against Bob to counter what Sam wrote and then took action against Sam too by leaving negative trust and adding Sam to her distrust list? In your scenario it is quite probable that Sam will take action against Sally by reciprocating the negative trust and the whole cycle could theoretically continue with more DT members getting involved...

Now seems more apt to conclude what The Pharmacist said about it being pointless to debate issues like this, is spot on.

Quote from: Stalker22 on Today at 08:48:11 PM

As far as I can tell, you are both respected members of this forum, and I hold you in high regard. Given the number of potential scammers here, I really see no reason for honest members to fight each other. This kind of situation will only be beneficial to them.

Thank you for your comments, they are appreciated.