Quote from: jonald_fyookball on March 12, 2014, 09:31:56 PM

Someone as smart and educated as yourself should be the first to acknowledge that
there are limitations inherent in the physical universe in which we live.

Saying we're eventually going to get to 10^70 flops seems like an insane comment
that denies such a truth.

This was answered before and I'll answer this again 10^70Flops is something inconceivable today! I don't think we disagree with this point, and I've been repeating this for a dozens of times, today we cannot brute force a 256bit encryption heck not even close to 128bit this is not even a point.

Where we disagree is in terms of future prospect. In the beginning of the 80s (I provided the numbers) Supercomputers were calculating the KiloFlops or 10^3 Flops! todays 10^16 Flops was inconceivable at the time, 56bit encryptions in the 80s and 90s were in that aspect impossible to crack and it would have taken Billions upon billions upon billions of years with the computing time, Today a supercomputer like the Tianhe-2 could crush in less than 3s (I can provide the math for the above if needed, as I did before.) in a similar way our computing power will move on in the next few decades and eventually it will reach a similar point to what is happening to 56bit encryption.

This is how science progress, and this is not limited to computing (while there is a reason tech is the are that progressing the fastest, being geopolitical reasons, economic reasons, defense reasons.....) Lets just see other science domains, for example the size of the universe, in the beginning of the 1900s we taught the universe was limited to the milky way, a few years we learned that milky-way is just one of many galaxies and today we know that only in the observable universe we have trillions of galaxies and it's the same story for any other field I can go on with this but it's not the point.

tl,dr: brute forcing a private key being it 128bit or 256bit is impossible today it's stupid to even try, and I've already provided the math for this and we do not disagree on this, my point is, in the next few decades we will eventually reach the point where we will have enough computing power to be able to do so as happened in the past!

Quote from: krampus on March 12, 2014, 09:43:46 PM

And yet you're still an idiot. Further proof that education doesn't make you smart.

I've worked in the computer industry for several decades. Everybody in this industry knows that Moore's Law is an observation of a trend, not a fundamental guarantee of future performance. And everyone knows that the constraints of physics (which you yourself claim to hold a degree in) will put a halt to that trend.

But I'm not going to try to convince you of these fundamental truths, or try to explain the math to you. Trying to educate educated idiots is a provably obvious waste of time. I'm just going to point out what a stupid fuckwit you are and be done with it.

Oh, but I will give you a tip: smart people know how to recognize people smarter than themselves. This is a critical differentiator between idiots and smart people.

Convince me? with what? Insults? please tell me/us, because so far it seems to be the only thing you are able to do, no argumentation, no facts, not able to maintain a proper conversation as a civilized person,

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I'm just going to point out what a stupid fuckwit you are and be done with it

Are you twelve ? You are making yourself looks worst and worst, so again where are your proves? where are your facts? your arguments? weren't you calling me an uneducated idiot in your previous comment? what's happened to that?

Just one last peace of advice since you seem to be concerned about your e-ego more than anything else which is the biggest vice of someone who wants to learn a few things which is of course the total opposite of intelligence, just take a few seconds to reflect and leave your e-ego for youtube comments or something where everyone there is an expert... (And I believe we all are here in bitcointalk to learn a thing or two being it in terms of cryptocurrency, trading .....ect or just to talk to people from different cultures) .