Quote from: lightfoot on Today at 01:16:54 AM

Quote from: Elwar on April 28, 2021, 07:05:26 PM

Quote from: lightfoot on April 28, 2021, 03:41:31 PM

Taxes are kind of a price to pay to live in a civilized society.

If civilisation is built upon involuntary extortion...it's not really civilised is it?

Indeed! In fact this extortion for services should be removed. The first place of course is the grocery store: People should be allowed to take what they wish and pay whatever they believe is "fair".

... typical socialist, moral relativist answer ... you're fucked up dude, you know that right?

... you just used theft as a moral equivalence to justify widespread socialised theft ... totally devoid of morals.

Socialism is a disease, it's true, but society is already fucked when it's morals have gone, socialism is merely filling the vacuum I think.

Extortion, coercion, incarceration are the final resort of course. It's an ideology without basis in morality, the outcomes are all too predictable and have been observable and widespread. At this point being an active, advocate for socialism is a sucumbing to the disease and choosing the moral blindness, whilst willingly ignoring the huge toll and human suffering it has caused.