Quote from: mr_random on March 15, 2014, 12:45:19 AM

Quote from: stormia on March 15, 2014, 12:33:53 AM

Quote from: mr_random on March 14, 2014, 11:33:40 PM

I dumped all my MINT for Blackcoin days ago. The MINT dev refused to tell us what he spent the 700 million MINT on. That was worth hundreds of BTC at the peak of MINT price.

Compare that to Blackcoin. ZERO premine yet Blackcoin still has a more transparent list of bounties. And even without 100 BTC of premine, Blackcoin is bringing more innovation to the table eg bcmultipool.

Then there is the fact MINT has 20% interest rate. Even the most hardened MINTer will admit that is too high.

What was the nail in coffin for me with MINT was the fact they put a super shitty logo on the mintcoin subreddit when there were much better ones. I find it fishy that won the community vote when almost everyone complained about it after it was chosen and nothing changed. Plus read through the devs comments on reddit and here, he was writing stuff like "Lol sell" and can't be bothered to work when the price was dropping and people were asking him questions and basically wanting reassurance.

And there's the fact MINT dev keeps saying mintcoin has nothing to do with Mintpal. Sorry don't believe that for various reasons.

So i've switched to Blackcoin. It's basically the coin mintcoin should have been imo.

Stop fixating on the premine, it is but one factor involved in the initial distribution. Lets look at another factor, which involves the other 99% (or 100% in BC's case) of the coin (i.e. lets pay attention to where the majority of the coins are going, which is more important): 1 week of mining versus 5 weeks of mining. So.. approx 99% of PoW Mint was distributed over 5 weeks, whereas 100% of PoW BC was distributed over 1 week. This analysis is far from perfect because there are too many factors involved but lets simplify the model to get the point across by assuming the same number of miners join per week for each coin, that would give Mintcoin slightly less than 5X the distribution of BC through PoW (slightly less than 5X since its 99% of the coins not 100% being distributed). But, the number of miners that hop on a coin per unit time is not a constant, the more time that passes since the release the more people that learn about and become interested in the coin and begin mining the coin (assuming the release was a good one, and interest in said coin grows). As such, it seems safe to assume that there is a modest acceleration in the number of adopters/time as time since the release of the coin increases. As such, the number of miners/week that started mining Mint during the later weeks is probably larger than the number of miners that joined in the first week for either Mint or BC. So, taking that into consideration, the rate of distribution should increase over time meaning that 5 weeks will result in MORE than 5X the distribution when compared to 1 week of distribution. Of course, this is ignoring the increase in difficulty as a function of time

Short version: Distribution is not linear with time, I would expect it to have a positive derivative: f(x) = miners/time ; f'(x) is positive aka (miners/time)/time is increasing- meaning that 5 weeks of mining versus 1 week of mining is actually more than 5X the amount of distribution.

That's all just assumption and hand waving. I'm dealing with the cold hard facts here. Rather than counter my points you want to focus on hand waving and silly assumptions that can be manipulated to either of our benefit.

But entertaining you for a second if you consult mintcoinrichlist.com and the blackcoin richlist: http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?top=100

As of five minutes ago the top 29 mintcoin addresses hold 30% of all mintcoins. And calculating for blackcoin we see the top 28 blackcoin addresses hold 30% of all blackcoins.

That is remarkably similar. Regardless, the distribution in both of them will only grow over time. I have no concern about such matters and don't want to get dragged into a pointless discussion about it since the facts can be twisted too easily. Wink

"As of five minutes ago the top 29 mintcoin addresses hold 30% of all mintcoins. And calculating for blackcoin we see the top 28 blackcoin addresses hold 30% of all blackcoins."

HAHA there are some cold hard facts that work against your stance that you just posted yourself. SO, a smaller number of BC addresses hold the same percentage of coin that a larger number of Mintcoin address do... and that is without a premine for BC... in other words, you just confirmed all the assumptions and hand waving I just did above because you just demonstrated that the distribution of mintcoin is better despite the premine..

edit: Thanks! I was too lazy to look at the numbers myself. Looks like my assumptions were at least partially right, though.