Quote from: Mauser on Today at 12:19:26 PM

Quote from: Max9003 on Today at 04:24:12 AM

The sun is shining, planets and galaxies are flying and spinning for no obvious reason. What other scientific proof needed in the existence of God? Wink

So all this randomness is proof that God exist? Many people make the same argument just with the opposite conclusion. I mean if bod exist and we are something special, why aren't we at the center of the universe then? And if we are not special, why aren't there many more planets with life? It kind of feels sad that we are all alone here.

Cause and Effect (C&E) is never random. C&E produces exactly the thing it's movement causes.

Take the game of pool, for example. If you hit that cue ball just a micron of distance to the left, it would produce slightly different results. The cue ball would hit some other point on the ball it hit. Things would change. But if you could hit it EXACTLY the same way 100 times in a row - the same right down to the molecule and force - it would react exactly the same way every time.

The point? Randomness simply means our inability to know the forces, etc., involved. The fact of C&E always being the same under the same circumstances shows that everything is programmed. Programmed needs a Programmer.

Or do you have even one, for-certain example of spontaneity happening somewhere?

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