Quote from: Gyrsur on Today at 10:55:21 AM

don't want to ~~counterfeit~~ imitate prodhun but $38k may be possible the next days. Roll Eyes

Of course, a lot of things are actually possible, and even more things may be possible, whether we are talking days or longer.

In udder words... not saying much to proclaim something or another "may be" possible.

Quote from: Dabs on Today at 12:11:57 PM

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on Today at 04:50:00 AM

@Dabs:

I side with Jay on the afterlife part. I would even say that the odds of it existing are far fewer than 1%. Perhaps 0+% (the + is for being scientific). As for your bet on it existing or not and where it will land you after you die, it's an interesting argument that many people use (i.e., winning this life vs. an eternal afterlife), but, according to almost all religious texts, this mindset will not land you in a nice place after you die, so you'd better pray there's no afterlife...

Its a little bit more involved than that, I guess you could say it starts with that mindset, until you change your way of thinking and willingness to help other people and your fellow brothers in humanity.

You, Dabs, are making the question more involved, and seem to be wanting to push some kind of agenda.. or at least to discuss the Pascal wager, when that was not even brought up by anyone except for you extending the conversation into never never landia, if there even is such a place?.

Largely, all that was being asked or talked about by AlcoHoDL were probabilities of whether there is and afterlife in terms of whether he is actually going to have any kind of capacity to see his lil ded selfie during the funeral or whatever, which is also contemplating whether death is actually final. So surely we moved quickly passed that part because we were both largely in agreement that the odds were pretty damned low.. but still maybe something to mention as a kind of possible fantasy.

So now you, Dabs, seem to want to double down and talk some more about whether some peeps should be motivated to be "goodie goodie" based on if they believe that they could end up getting punished in the even that they do not live sufficiently "goodie goodie" in this current life. In some sense you are coming off as patronizing and pretentious to act as if some of us have not come across such ideas, but you may well being patronizing and pretentious as well to be trying to push us into some kind of nonsense religious topic because you want to talk about it, when it was NOT even mentioned beyond as a kind of passing thingie.

Quote from: Dabs on Today at 12:11:57 PM

Whether the answer is yes or no, I would like to live a life where I am remembered by at least a few that I have had it okay or good or something along those lines.

Nothing wrong with that, and in that regard, I doubt how you remembered is dependent on their being an afterlife or not.. but maybe how you remembered is one of the ONLY forms of actual afterlife that exists - so you are kind of alive - even though not materially - until the last person forgets you... perhaps?

Quote from: Dabs on Today at 12:11:57 PM

Proof or evidence is a matter of faith. One can not really see it, but either you take the leap or you don't.

We (that's the royal we plus 1... and all that matters for all intents and purposes) have already ruled it out, here.

Quote from: Dabs on Today at 12:11:57 PM

The mindset I prefer is one stemming from love, not fear. Criminals fear law enforcement. Good people are good just because they feel good when they do good.

Surely that point has something to do with the price of tea in China, especially if we dig down really MOAR deeper.