Quote from: Abcdefghijklmnzzz on June 21, 2021, 01:25:28 PM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on June 21, 2021, 07:25:58 AM

Thanks for the info. I dug deep into huntercoin early on and saw satoshi’s MO all over it. Maybe a coincidence.

I’m still not sure what you mean by tribal economies. How would a coin help them? Watching ads? But they have no money to buy anything. I’m imagining poor African tribes so that’s why I don’t see how a coin would help them unless you took from the rich to the poor. We already know that plan is an utter failure.

An easy way to understand is to look at the globe in terms of where tribes exist compared to melting pot areas.

Look at all big countries and you will see all of the economic power concentrated in the melting pot aspect of the country. The U.S. exists for example because it was able to militarily conquer all tribes nearby, then degrade their societies through forced conversion by priests etc, then pull them into the melting pot economy.

For a long time it has been beyond illegal for any indigenous entity to begin an economy that might challenge the dollar economy. So illegal that no laws were ever necessary. Any indigenous Americans who tried to do something like that faced the full force of the U.S., including death.

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Today, if indigenous societies tried to create a fiat currency it would flounder and flop because melting pots have so much power. Creating a worthless tribal currency which does not have guns behind it, to challenge a worthless melting pot currency which has lots of guns is no go, a fail.

So if tribal groups want to challenge the beast that is consuming them they cannot bluff with worthless fiat, they have to create a real currency which produces an actual commodity, in other words real money.

The new commodity in the last hundred years or so is scientific data and capability. Just like gold or oranges or any other commodity, new data is easily monetized if necessary. Any currency which produces a real commodity, such as scientific data, is like making a currency around a gold mine.

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A few months after bitcoin developed, several other projects were started. The goal of these projects appears to involve trying to prevent, or slow, the accelerating collapse of British derives societies, like the U.S., Australia etc, and Western Europe. Those areas have serious concerns developing.

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Unfortunately, there is a very easy solution to the concerns of colonial areas. It's not necessary to discuss it excessively but you know crispr.

A solution to avoid what is rapidly developing is hard borders strong quarantines etc. If melting pot boundaries are used then tribal extinctions will accelerate. In that case nukes are put on the table. Tribal currencies are a way to help create tribal borders which are secure.

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Edit to add
Just to be clear there are a vast number of people in many countries who are 'nuclear capable' or 'crispr capable' on their own. One person, one army. If you want to take over a village with conventional weapons you need a lot of people. If you want to nuke it you do not need help if you have a proper education, you can do it alone, and if you want to exterminate a race, likewise if you are a crispr capable individual

The U.S. has, by far, the best biowar capacity of any country. Once individuals in the U.S. start clearing land in Latin America the Chinese will be greenlighted for Tibet, etc etc around the world. It does not need a chain of command to approve, just one person and a little lab equipment.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/perus-hinterland-town-battles-worlds-worst-covid-19-outbreak-2021-06-04/

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Let me try again. You say "I’m still not sure what you mean by tribal economies. How would a coin help them? Watching ads? But they have no money to buy anything. I’m imagining poor African tribes so that’s why I don’t see how a coin would help them unless you took from the rich to the poor. We already know that plan is an utter failure."

Watching ads would be silly.

You are imagining "poor African tribes".

Okay.

A poor African tribe which is isolated has no need for neither fiat nor crypto. They need basic resources and space. In other words they are entirely dependent on their neighbors balancing resources in a way that is not harmful or lethal to them. There is no need to force crypto on them.

A poor non isolated tribe i.e., one of the many African tribes which are spread around the continent, will have people with expertise in conventional sciences. Look at the network ai coin described, and it can be adapted to other sciences besides math. They have to find a science, or a niche within a science which they will develop. They will need a basic framework of code to get started i.e., a much more developed version of the simple math network ai coin discussed already.

So, today, step 1) develop a simple example coin which develops an easy science like math
step 2, tomorrow, ) monetize it so it attracts hungry people
step 3, next week, ) help people adapt the coin, build code repositories or templates for new coins, from one simple science to another simple science, then to more complex sciences step
step 4, next year, ) Your non isolated African tribe can develop a niche or a science. Any science can be monetized. Corporations do it by hiring scientists and using their work converted into products to make money. There are many other ways.
step 5, whenever, ) Sometime, way down the line, tribal economies can develop entirely proprietary sciences. There have been many sciences destroyed by the melting pot. When tribes are consumed their sciences disappear and that broken development shifts to sciences the melting pot had started. Once there are secure tribal boundaries, tribes can start developing local sciences which will continue developing as long as the tribes are secure. A local science will produce a product which is unknown elsewhere but which has some use as a science. Today, a melting potted world largely built around western European expansion, there are a limited number of sciences which people in every industrial melting pot work on. Once tribes have security and isolated economies there will be new sciences which are not from Western Europe nor global. What will be the sciences that are developing in your African tribe? Who knows. Initially all network connected economies would have a heavy tinge of Western European influence, but once global power shifts from melting pot to tribe it will be the opposite. Gradually power will become a function of tribal isolation, so the more isolated a tribe the faster it will develop sciences whose product is 'a commodity' of higher value.

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Or, to put it another way, if you don't understand what a tribal economy is.

An economy is a group of people who generally have a currency and other things in common.

A melting pot economy is generally a collection of lots of people from different backgrounds with one currency i.e., previously conquered tribes + a core society which pushes the worldview of some other society which is consuming weaker groups.

melting pot / So, for example, the U.S. is a Western European based economy and political system, so it promotes that worldview, but it contains a lot of past victims of the U.S. who were conquered and who the U.S. needs to assimilate / consume. As long as the U.S. has a relatively wealthy status with regard to other countries it is easy.

melting pot /In China the Han ethnicity is the predominant group, akin to the British in the U.S., Australia etc. As in the U.S., their society is designed to perpetuate the core culture at the expense of neighbors.

melting pot /In the Soviet Union, the Soviets tried to play the U.S. game of creating a fake federal system, but because they did not have the resources they failed. Today in Russia you have a lot of ethnicities and Russia has not quite eliminated as many tribes in modern history as the U.S. You can compare the Russia section at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_languages_of_Europe with the page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinct_languages_of_North_America and you see no country comes close to the U.S. at eliminating tribal culture / languages.

melting pot /In India you have quite a lot of tribal societies with their own languages and cultures and, in many cases, more tribal authority than you find in other countries. An obvious exception being Kashmir and some places in the Northeast. India now is tending towards nationalism though so it isn't clear how those tribal societies may fare in the future.

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Are there any tribal economies? I don't know of any completely tribal economies in the world now. After WWI there was a heavy push to globalize and eliminate tribal power because some people saw it as a cause of conflict. Then melting pots began collaborating against any tribal societies that began to emerge. Now, today, you have an accelerating push by melting pots to eliminate tribal societies.

East Timor is an excellent example. The U.S., Britain and Australia arranged for Indonesia to exterminate a large segment of the population for reasons that would make this long post even longer. Today if you go on Google and try to find out what happened in East Timor you will not find the truth unless it is by accident. Same with many other tribal societies that were eviscerated. Almost all of the easy paths to information, like Google, present inaccuracies which serve the colonizers, so young people today do not know real history.

Here is a list of recently extinguished tribal languages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_time_of_extinction

You can see for the past 200 years Australia and the U.S. have been doing the bulk of that type stuff.

Why do they do it? Land and fresh genetic material which creates an underclass that supports the conqueror.

Here is a picture of the last indigenous Tasmanian

Here is a picture of what the government tries to pass of as an 'indigenous Tasmanian' today

The lower picture, the white guy, is "Descended from the Trawulwuy people of north east Tasmania"

https://www.utas.edu.au/alumni/our-alumni/profiles/profiles/professor-greg-lehman

Great write up. Crypto won’t change anything with tribal economies. It gives more power to TPTB for they can easily ban and criminalize any crypto they want.

Crispr. What do you think the payload is in all these vaccines who is clearly targeting people by sector and race. Like blacks and Latin Americans get the jab first. Then the elderly. This is no coincidence.

Then Mexico and South America. Like you said they will clear it all out. It’s all part of the reset but this whole we will be empowered by crypto is a wet dream. You can’t even take your coins out and hide somewhere. You own nothing but private a private key going to an address with back doors.

It’s naive to think any other reality happening in the next decade. We are trending toward total destruction not bliss. The bliss will be temporary from the greater wealth transfer the world has ever seen - enjoy the few years of that cause hell is coming to earth once the party winds down.