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Quote from: tarmo888 on June 13, 2021, 05:07:59 PM

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Thanks for your time and reply. I can't say I am fully convinced, but you have your point, and I am far from being a judge here, as I am no expert in the topic anyway. Thanks again for taking the time to explain.
I see you spend a lot of time fighting with some of the community members, and see some valued members left due to those arguments over the course of development of the project. You may be right, they might be wrong, but in any case listening to the active community and keeping then active is crucially important for any public project like this. I would suggest using them, asking them for help, but not fighting them. More open approach could make this project great again, as it was once... Just my opinion though.

Please do explain the "more open approach" when responding to FUD and misinformation. If the long time community member still doesn't understand how Obyte consensus works and what makes it unique then the "valued member" part isn't really true, isn't it? What value is there from members who still spread misinformation?

Just that some people are active, doesn't mean they have slightest idea what they are suggesting. You start taking advice from randos who don't get it and you end up with turd like BSV.

Example, go read some earliest posts in this thread and there were many who thought and still think today that 12 Order Providers is not enough and there should be 100 randomized and they should be all anonymous. What are they missing? First, Order Providers don't have the same powers (they don't decide whose transactions gets into the DAG) as block producers (they decide whose transactions gets to next block), so there is no need to randomize them. Second, anonymous nodes are potential Sybil attack (sabotage). Third, you change one detail and suddenly, rest of the consensus doesn't make any sense anymore and you need to change everything.

It's just so damn easy to see a small number somewhere and yell "centralized!" without actually digging into what privileges or lack of privileges are in the hands of few.

And sometimes, there are just people, who doesn't understand what is considered digital signature in EU or how eesti.ee emails are issued or what certain terms in DeFi mean, so they just want to fight because they think their previously acquired blockchain knowledge can be applied to everything.

I am not sure what more open times you reminisce, the great times are when weak hands don't dump. Obyte is as open as any open-source, you can contribute with Pull Request or Fork the code and launch your own. Some scammers have done it and lot of people who don't know how to maintain it have done it too. Some even have tried to launch a shitter fork of it by re-introducing PoW gatekeepers to network that doesn't need PoW.