Quote from: ndalliard on July 06, 2021, 12:04:04 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 06, 2021, 11:42:14 AM

Quote from: ndalliard on July 06, 2021, 07:05:24 AM

that means the lightning network it is clearly dependent on the bitcoin network and also i would say, that both networks have an impact on each other. i agree with the last part, that no one is force to use neither networks (some say people in el salvador are now force to use it, but that is another topic)

Lightning is an “off-chain” layer and doesn’t impact the Bitcoin blockchain/the base layer.

just because it is called "off-chain" doesn't mean it doesn't impact bitcoin the base layer, if you think about it, you have to do at least two transactions for every channel (okay maybe one if you count channels you will "never" close), but my point is: it impacts the base layer, cause lightning needs a base layer and using it means that there is an impact / influence, whatever you want to call it - or are we takling about two different things here?

In that regard, then yes, it does have an “impact”, but I believe “impact” might be too powerful of a term to use. When you posted “impact”, I thought you believed that Lightning would truly have a strong influence on the consensus layer.