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Quote from: Poker Player on Today at 08:33:10 AM

The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.

I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical.

As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.

*_{we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.}

Quote from: fastlight on Today at 08:39:06 AM

try to understand this
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That image makes no sense. Which I think the person who drew it concedes, by just having lines rather than arrows joining the boxes - without arrows, it's just a vague set of ideas with no process flow. If the vaccines are effective, then of course it is useful to know whether or not someone has been vaccinated.

wrong a feotus is a miracle of life, an act of god, however it belond, imho, to the mother, as she is the one in harmony with it. and if she doesn't want it, she is free legally, but not morally, to terminate her pregancy. Orcas female drop often first born as they are too contaminated to leave due to pollution, having absorbed most toxines, making the next ones with more survival chances.

yes it does

if the injections works at intended (protect you, fully, like any real vaccine) there is no need for a pass as your are protected and risk free
if the injection doesn't work, same, no need for a pass.
aka if you are injected and still transmitting aka not blocking the spread, the pass is useless but to identify you once the side effects really kick in (according to estimate 3 years after injection in humans, personnally waiting for at least 7 generations to be safe and secure).