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I was wondering if there's a category of people who support the vaccine, as naturally intrigued by research projects and public experiments, but chose to abstain as not getting paid to test new medical research?

I've otherwise stayed out of the debate for a while, just listening to friends who say they will never get it and we need to fight, as well as others who claim I am dumb for not having it already. Truth be told, my main argument for not getting the vaccine is my sock draw is always a complete mess. I have to keep rearranging it with thinner socks at the front for the warmer weather, but with access to thicker socks for work and gardening. It's a real nightmare to be honest and is a lot of maintenance for me, it's meant I simply haven't had the time to join this research project. That and the day I genuinely considered having the vaccine - "the day" as others put it - a beautiful butterfly landed on my knee (that was dirty from soil work) and with persistence decided to clean me while gaining sufficient nutrients, or so I assume. I tried to deter this creature but they were so persistent and determined so I gave up. It completely distracted me from thinking about taking the vaccine, and personally haven't thought about it since.

I otherwise support everyone who has become part of this experiment, I genuinely salute you all! Medical advancements are needed, and this is a very well controlled study with an amazing sample size. I look forward to the continued results of this experiment in the coming years. Naturally I'm skeptical with any untested medicines/vaccines that haven't gone through the test of time, at least 2-3 years but realistically 10 years for the full research to be discovered.

If you're part of the older generation then for sure you have nothing to lose, but personally, I feel I've still got a lot to live for. None the less, I appreciate all of you who are vaccinated for being part of this study so I don't have to

I would like for you to answer me and say I am part of the study and I am one of the reasons MSM is running around saying since Jan 1 99.2% of covid dead are not vaccinated.

You are helping to create the study. The only way to opt out of the study it to kill yourself.

Everyone else is in the study.

The problem I have is your bolded statement as you actually think you are exempt from the study.

It you you want to opt out of the study suicide is the only way to not be included.

Unless you have your own rocket ship and leave the planet.

I do not have an issue with you opted to not take a shot.
I do have an issue thinking that means you are not in the study.

Fair point, you're completely right and hadn't considered this angle, can't argue against that logic to save my non-vaccinated life. You must be very logical individual given the number of other users that overlooked this factor, something I deeply admire to be honest.

I therefore take back the fact I'm not part of this study in a wider sense, even if not part of the isolated and well-controlled vaccination study directly. Potentially being part of the minority un-vaccinated will be as valuable (if not more valuable) medical research then being part of the vaccinated majority, only time will tell. I'm more than happy to be able to potentially contribute regarding this medical research in the future for sure, I do love new discoveries, experiments, innovations, etc.

For sure if I ever got tested positive for covid, I'd happily submit any relevant information required to assist in the necessary research. Ultimately though, as someone who was engaged in relief packages to many isolators and covid positive cases in the early days of lockdown for many months, the likelihood of me already coming into contact with it was extremely high. I additionally made the effort to intentionally expose myself as intensely as possible at that time in order to try and build immunity, while responsibly avoiding putting others at risk. This while also maintaining an incredibly healthy fitness routine and solid diet. Think consuming any physical contact before washing hands, wearing a mask but exposing myself to non-mask wearers etc.

When the initial lockdown occurred and the streets were deserted with the exception of the licensed workers such as myself risking our lives in order to assist (potentially even save) others, it's hard not to think I came in contact with at least one strain of the virus, repeatedly I imagine, despite no-one directly around me testing positive either. Hence I don't feel the need for a vaccine personally, I think I'm past that point in time now to due high exposure. If there was another lockdown I'd return to relief work I imagine (as adore the freedom of the apolocalyptic outdoors more than anything else), and hopefully I'd be able to do this un-vaccinated to avoid the potential of losing valuable research data.

It's nice to know that I am therefore playing my part in this public experiment so I appreciate your valuable insight. I felt a bit selfish not participating directly to be honest, even if seems unncessary due to the large sample size already, but ultimately it does make me feel a lot better now

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 12:26:16 PM

But I sure this post will simply anger you and you will not be able to see a very simple truth.

You don't know me very well it seems, it's best to avoid making assumptions without solid facts to backup such a statement Wink

Nice reply.