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Quote from: GGUL on Today at 06:49:33 AM

1. It is worth noting that the speed of distribution of blocks in general on the network does not play a special role for mining. The main thing is what is the speed of distribution of blocks within the subnet that covers miners. If the speed inside the subnet was at the level of 1 second, we would have ~1.6% of orphan blocks. But there are much fewer orphan blocks at the moment. Somewhere on the forum, a figure of 0.0024% was given (I can't vouch for the accuracy). This means that the speed is now much less than 1 sec.

Correct. Keep in mind that doing so would make the current mining scene more centralized, whereby miners that are not interconnected with the majority of the miners are more likely to experience more orphans, due to the lack of a direct connection.

Quote from: GGUL on Today at 06:49:33 AM

You want to say that if all miners establish the highest possible exchange rate among themselves, this makes the system more centralized. Judging by the number of orphan blocks, the miners have achieved this goal. That is, at the moment, the miners are as centralized as possible in terms of the exchange between them. It is simply impossible to make it more centralized already.

Some miner will not want to, cannot speed up the exchange with other miners as much as possible and will lose his income because of this. And another miner can. So these are the problems of the miner. We do not solve the problems of miners in terms of the price of electricity, equipment, taxes. Why should we solve the problems of the miner in terms of its exchange rate over the network?

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I would prefer miners to validate the blocks first. SPV mining is not a behavior that I think we should encourage, we've had a mishap with SPV mining in the past so probably not such a good idea given that current validation speeds are sufficiently fast.

As far as I know, there has been one failure with spv mining over the past 5 years. And besides the loss of a part of the miners ' income, there were no other losses. Yes, spv mining has risks for the miner. And the miner himself decides whether to use it or not. And if you claim that it is impossible to increase the block in order not to encourage miners to use spv mining, then this is one of the most ridiculous arguments against increasing the block.

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I don't think those sizes are particularly unrealistic to achieve in the future. If you don't need the majority of the network to be able to run their own nodes and that mining to be centralized with a few entities, then it should probably be fine.

IIt is interesting that now, when it is almost free to save a full node, less than 1% of users save it. Why we set such a goal: so that most users can have a full node. If most people don't need it. To achieve this goal, we almost stopped the development and expansion of the bitcoin system 4 years ago. As for me, this is too expensive and pointless a sacrifice.

Maybe it makes sense to look at reality and change our goals. For example, so that the number of nodes is not less than a certain number, which is enough to ensure the security of the system.