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You are going to need more than 0.21BTC then.

Hi JJG: I see you repeatedly mention that figure and I wonder why. I remember years ago it was said to try to get your hands on at least 1 Bitcoin to secure your future . Perhaps 0.21BTC is the new 1BTC? I guess with the increase in demand, and price, with 7 billion people living in the world, having 0.21BTC can secure your future. Is that so? That's the explanation I give but I'm not sure if that's what you mean.

For sure, I am not suggesting that anyone should stop accumulating BTC way premature if they still have the ability to keep accumulating and they have not reached their goals, yet. The punch line to the current target of 0.21BTC is a kind of realistic acknowledgement that accumulating 1 BTC is starting to become way out of the reach of a lot of people - so we should want to attempt to stay realistic for the vast majority of people in terms of helping them to set reasonable targets that they can reach and then perhaps keep on moving the targets upwardly (if feasible and reasonable) once the lower targets are reached.

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JJG = wrong Tongue

There is never a target not 1 btc not 0.21….

There is not a goal to reach, there is a manner of lifetime strategy to work out, people just need to realize that BTC is the main asset to HODL on for life and just a thing to work with at any time not something to reach and stop….

You are not really saying anything too much different from me, except perhaps you are aiming at some kind of seemingly blind conviction that fails/refuses to attempt to account for individual particulars including psychology and finances.

In other words, we are not all starting from the same place in terms of our finances nor our psychology, especially in regards to an asset such as bitcoin..

yeah, we can start out with some ideas about "get the fuck off zero" and some of those basics, but then once we get past get the fuck off zero I doubt it is practical to assert that people should go all in.. that is a bunch of bullshit because normies are not going to do it.. and normies are all over the place in terms of their thinking about finances and their practices.. so there is some value in attempting to work with people from where they are at rather than hypothesizing them to already be in some kind of fantasy place that might have been reflective of where you were at when you got started, but even if you look at ur own lil selfie, and if you are honest with ur own lil selfie, you are likely going to appreciate that you were not likely very enlightened at all about bitcoin when you started, and you may well were not even enlightened about yourself and your then financial practices.

Bitcoin can provide a vehicle for any of us to learn more about ourselves and also to figure out what is going to be our investment goals.. and we might well need to stand before we walk, walk before we run, and run before we try aerodynamic moves. Probably a vast majority of us made some mistakes along the way too, and some of those mistakes have related to ways in which to attempt to tailor our bitcoin investment to ourselves which is not only learning about bitcoin but also learning about ourselves, too.

Are you proclaiming yourself to the be exception? the one who knew everything right from the start? that seems a pretty damned rare beast to me, even though I have seen quite a few people proclaiming to have known stuff way before they could have even reasonably known.. the baby genius is also a fantasy rather than a real thing that exists.

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By the way, don't get me wrong. A lot of normies are likely to screw themselves out of some potential profits because they end up being quite hesitant, whimpy and lacking in conviction and lacking in front-loading of their BTC investment, but it still does not take away from the fact that the vast majority of people are going to have to build their conviction.. Maybe even someone like Saylor had to spend a few months studying up on bitcoin before he went into BTC pretty damned aggressively from the start (but is he very typical of any kind of normie? I doubt it). But even if we attempt to analyze Saylor's initial getting into bitcoin a bit over a year ago, he became more aggressive with the passage of time in terms of just investing cash reserves at the start, but presumptively as he learned more he became more aggressive in terms of figuring out various ways to use debt (or potentially be able to draw from other kinds of seemingly creative debt.. that also is likely very available to the vast majority of normies).. but even Saylor's earliest aggressive use of cash reserves (wasn't it something like 70% from the start?) would be way the hell more aggressive than most normies just getting their foot in the door of a kind of investment like bitcoin and getting their investment level up to between 1% to 10% of their investment portfolio would be challenging to achieve for a lot of normies who are not willing to move so quickly, decisively and aggressively, even if it may have been for their own good to get their investment size up there faster rather than slower.

Bc I didn’t read the whole damn thing Tongue

Oh ? Which part did you read? My recommendation to be a bitcoin whimp.. hahahahaha..

I do admit that I do tend to emphasize that guys (and gal) should do a decent amount of self-reflection before taking a kind of aggressive BTC front-loading stance, but I also attempt to suggest that people get started right away.. at least in terms of setting up some kind of BTC related account or figure out some ways to get and to hold BTC.. so yeah, if they have no damned clue about what they are doing or why bitcoin and various other distractions (such as the common dumb shit - "what about x, y, z shitcoin?"), then surely I still would say that they just start with something whimpy, such as $10 per week while they figure out their shit.

I had another one of my cousins telling me the other day how he had made a good deal because he got a discount on the 2021 Diesel Dodge Ram truck that he bought in terms of his trade in and the whole transaction was the reason why he had not taken any kind of position in bitcoin since we had spoken in around December 2019... so yeah, sure there can be some some utility in having a good running vehicle and even to use that vehicle for work, but I still question why not both.. or even if the truck was as needed as his passion seemed to be making it out to be... and gosh not even that he is dumb but he does seem to be having some troubles considering how much new vehicles depreciate.. and there is likely some value in having some other kinds of investments with what seems to be some of his decent cashflow.. not all guys in their mid-20s or so are going to be able to buy new trucks.. but not sure if they should either.. even though that is their decision to make, ultimately... most likely payments involved too.. I did not really get into some of the details because we were kind of considering the matter from differing frameworks... ... so where is a guy like that going to start into bitcoin, besides perhaps first getting off zero.. and perhaps $10 per week.. even though we know that he is probably around $1k per month for his truck payments for the next 5 years or so.